Massey 590 drivetrain 4wd question?

[multi power]

How far should it move 1/2" or 2" sort of range?

About 2 inches

 

[MF-ANDY]

About 2 inches

No 1/2" at most. It's the same type of spool that's used in the bell housing to control the multi power and on 525/625 super2 combines to control the table throw out clutch

 

[HDAV]

No 1/2" at most. It's the same type of spool that's used in the bell housing to control the multi power and on 525/625 super2 combines to control the table throw out clutch

Ok I have had a tug tractor was parked up and it moved a bit so pull out for 4wd push back for 2wd?


Diff lock pedal moved a bit, do you depress to lock meaning you can't use brakes or foot throttle while engaged and it should unlock when released? One sticker I did find was about pressing clutch if diff lock failed to engage

This little lever is stuck what does it do?

 

[Tomtrac]

Ok I have ot a tug tractor was parked up and it moved a bit so pull out for 4wd push back for 2wd?


Diff lock pedal moved a bit, do you depress to lock meaning you can't use brakes or foot throttle while engaged and it should unlock when released? One sticker I did find was about pressing clutch if diff lock failed to engage

This little lever is stuck what does it do?

That lever operates the Multi-power
Its a hi and low splitter in each gear in low it will free wheel down a hill (as in no engine brake or engine holding tractor back and in hi its just normal you have no need to use the clutch )when changing but as its stuck i wouldnt worry

 

[Tomtrac]

Apart from its in low if you have a slope drive down it and see if the engine holds the tractor back or does it free wheel ie get faster if so i would get it into hi as my other post undo lever near gear box and try moving it there

 

[HDAV]

Apart from its in low if you have a slope drive down it and see if the engine holds the tractor back or does it free wheel ie get faster if so i would get it into hi as my other post undo lever near gear box and try moving it there

Yes it does freewheel down slope and that is not ideal so that lever takes you from 1-1.5 and 2-2.5 gear ratios it seemed pretty well stuck I'll try and follow it down to the box next time I am there, this is where it being 30 miles from home is a real pain.

 

[sawdust]

No idea but current is its used for beach launching boats

Many thanks will have to test the 4wd function another time I did get coupler back on and secured with a papaerclip! Didn't have a long yet thin enough cotter pin......

Not even an old nail, ffs this is a fermer forum

 

[sawdust]

That lever operates the Multi-power
Its a hi and low splitter in each gear in low it will free wheel down a hill (as in no engine brake or engine holding tractor back and in hi its just normal you have no need to use the clutch )when changing but as its stuck i wouldnt worry

Apart from its in low if you have a slope drive down it and see if the engine holds the tractor back or does it free wheel ie get faster if so i would get it into hi as my other post undo lever near gear box and try moving it there

Yes it does freewheel down slope and that is not ideal so that lever takes you from 1-1.5 and 2-2.5 gear ratios it seemed pretty well stuck I'll try and follow it down to the box next time I am there, this is where it being 30 miles from home is a real pain.

OP, needs to get multi power working, as in low it will take off on any hill and if in high and he stops he won't be able to take gear stick into neutral

 

[HDAV]

Hmmmmm is it likely the lever or something internal?

My concern is we paid a lot of money in the last 12 months to have thrust bearing replaced I think tractor may have been split ? Was out of action for a good few weeks yet still lots of issues machine was bought from a trader 12 months ago and i think we were had......

 

[towbar]

have you a picture of the tractor and roughly what you've spent on it

 

[MF-ANDY]

Hopefully it is seized externally as if its internal it ought to have been fixed while the tractor was split for the thrust bearing. You can get at external linkage behind the dash cover or by taking out the panels around and in front of the gear levers

 

[wasted years]

Hmmmmm is it likely the lever or something internal?

My concern is we paid a lot of money in the last 12 months to have thrust bearing replaced I think tractor may have been split ? Was out of action for a good few weeks yet still lots of issues machine was bought from a trader 12 months ago and i think we were had......

Don't take this the wrong way but given your level of knowledge I would be getting a third party to look at it and the invoice for the work carried out to see what should have been done when it was apart.
You could go back to the mechanic but I know what I think will happen given the basic stuff that isn't working .
If you end up drawing swords you will need reports drawing up anyway so you might as well move to stage 3 IYSWIM.

 

[sawdust]

Hmmmmm is it likely the lever or something internal?

My concern is we paid a lot of money in the last 12 months to have thrust bearing replaced I think tractor may have been split ? Was out of action for a good few weeks yet still lots of issues machine was bought from a trader 12 months ago and i think we were had......[/QUOTE]

 

[Tomtrac]

How long ago did you purchase the tractor if you bought it in working condition the multi power should of worked it sounds to me like you didnt no
Also i may get shot for this but i was under the impression that if you buy a machine from a dealer the must offer a handbook HSE rule a couple of years + ago i have bought 10 year old tractors.tankers etc and got a hand book at time of sale

 

[HDAV]

I wasn't involved in the purchase and we have had bigger issues, which I don't want to go into here it's part of the issue of committee operations.

 

[Tomtrac]

Oh a committee !
Nobody makes a decision then when they do its never them that made it lol

 

[HDAV]

have you a picture of the tractor and roughly what you've spent on it

Here is a photo @towbar As for what we spent I am chasing invoices, how it has changed from when it was bought I don't know, we pay to gphave it "marinised" but the seat has been replaced in the last few months with an old bus seat........

We pay for a professional to asses the tractor before buying and then carry out repairs etc as necessary

But we have no manuals, the multi power isn't working the front drive shaft was off etc etc I think the attitude is "oh you don't need that for what you do" which is probably true

 

[towbar]

It doesn't look too bad but you'd have to question an assessor that didn't note those things for your group when buying. While I agree you don't need all singing all dancing features - it needs to be safe and multi power in low is an issue unless it has being disabled totally which by the sounds of it it isn't and in those conditions I think 4wd working is essential

 

[HDAV]

Don't take this the wrong way but given your level of knowledge I would be getting a third party to look at it and the invoice for the work carried out to see what should have been done when it was apart.
You could go back to the mechanic but I know what I think will happen given the basic stuff that isn't working .
If you end up drawing swords you will need reports drawing up anyway so you might as well move to stage 3 IYSWIM.

I know what you are saying and there isn't much point revisiting it now we do however want to make the best of the situation and get the machine up to a functional standard and hopefully run a good few years without incident and recover some of the investment. Also make sure the same thing doesn't happen again.

 

[HDAV]

It doesn't look too bad but you'd have to question an assessor that didn't note those things for your group when buying. While I agree you don't need all singing all dancing features - it needs to be safe and multi power in low is an issue unless it has being disabled totally which by the sounds of it it isn't and in those conditions I think 4wd working is essential

Thanks, partly why I have now got the job of sourcing a replace,net for the ford is I was unhappy with how it worked out last time and no one else wants to go through the hassle of finding a replacement, it's a no win situation really buy a great machine well that's what is supposed to happen, buy a knacker and you've wasted other people's money....