Massey 590 drivetrain 4wd question?

Discussion in 'Classic Machinery' started by HDAV, Oct 8, 2017.

  1. towbar

    towbar Member

    Location:
    Louth, Ireland
    I wonder if those back wheels are the right size to match the front fir correct 4wd ratio as well.might be worth noting sizes next time your there and post them here somebody may know the correct ratio fir a 590.

    You need to see if multi power can be freed out if not you need to either get it disabled or look at replacing gearbox with non mp version.

    Does engine start easily and run ok ?
     
  2. HDAV

    HDAV Member

    Starts ok as far as I can tell, bit lumpy when cold but once warm runs ok it's faster down the ramp with no throttle than full throttle on the flat so no engine braking, will get tyre sizes at weekend. Anything else i should look for?
     
  3. towbar

    towbar Member

    Location:
    Louth, Ireland
    Check if the lift arms at rear working maybe there is no hydraulics working at all?
     
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  4. HDAV

    HDAV Member

    That is is possible as we don't use them but the 3 point hitch has been removed and replaced with a frame as part of the marinisation. Why this is done I cannot say I would rather the frame mount to the 3 point hitch.
     
  5. multi power

    multi power Member

    Location:
    pembrokeshire
    Back wheels look correct to me 13.6x38 ,if anything the fronts look a bit big, I'd expect to find 12.4x24
    Not working multi power I agree isn't good, especially with amature drivers, but I suspect the lever is only seized because the MP didn't work, first thing is checking the oil level, dipstick on back right of tractor rear end, sort of inside of the back wheel
     
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  6. Tomtrac

    Tomtrac Member

    Location:
    Penrith cumbria
    We bolted our multi powers up solid drilled threw the clutch pack but that may be far to challenging as above replace the gear box if you dont need four-wheel drive i wouldnt worry
    It sounds to me that the engine starts and runs and thats it no hydraulics working but as above try moving the levers in the cab but by the pictures and what work it is doing i guess they will be seized
    Does the tractor run in the water if so how deep? Let us know if you get a chance to check out the linkage on the multi power
     
  7. towbar

    towbar Member

    Location:
    Louth, Ireland
  8. HDAV

    HDAV Member

    Tractor shouldn't go deeper than the tow ball on rear into water but waves do splash up the back from time to time when's it's flat calm it's ok it's when it's not the water gets into places we don't want it!

    Thanks for all the help wil suggest we purchase a manual is £25 a fair price?
     
  9. multi power

    multi power Member

    Location:
    pembrokeshire
    Yes £25 is about right for a manual, a very good investment
     
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  10. towbar

    towbar Member

    Location:
    Louth, Ireland
    It's probably dear for a reprint but I can't see any others and definitely worth having. I'd also buy this the scan quality might not be great but very useful if do want to make adjustments to brakes etc or want to see the workings of different parts and not dear

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/112593175634
     
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  11. sawdust

    sawdust Member

    Location:
    Argyll
    Where's the foreign laddie on here who has all the MF manuals??:unsure:
     
  12. Lucy's dad

    Lucy's dad New Member

    Location:
    Angus
  13. HDAV

    HDAV Member

    Ok so tyres seem ok 12.4-24 and 13.6/12-38

    Rear oil Seems low checked after driving back and forth for 5 mins did engine oil and it was warm and just over min

    Tried pulling 4wd knob couldn't notice a difference driving I thought I would and coupler is still on shaft ??? ??? ???
     

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  14. sawdust

    sawdust Member

    Location:
    Argyll
    Top up both, to top marks on dip sticks when cold and sitting level, with if still available Multipurpose oil.
     
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  15. HDAV

    HDAV Member

    I'll ask if we have any, where is the rear oil filler?
     

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  16. sawdust

    sawdust Member

    Location:
    Argyll
    The bit you thought was a blanking plug beside the gearstick, gearbox and backend get filled together :)
     
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  17. towbar

    towbar Member

    Location:
    Louth, Ireland
    drive slowly with full steering lock on and push 4wd in and out - you should feel it jump sort of when switching
     
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  18. HDAV

    HDAV Member

    That's what I did and couldn't feel anything I was expecting some tyre scrub or judder on full lock in 4wd

    Also how is the diff lock supposed to,work? Press and it locks in the pedal just seems to bounce should it stay in once pressed this was on concrete so no slip occurred
     
  19. sawdust

    sawdust Member

    Location:
    Argyll
    diff pedal has to be held down with your heel, does not wait down it's self (y)
     
  20. HDAV

    HDAV Member

    Ok I stood on it and it moved a bit, wasn't sure if it was supposed to stop down on its own, note in cab about using clutch to disengage if it doesn't auto disengage?
     

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