Massey wheels cracking?
- Thread starter JLLM
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- Location
- Northumberland
Dual wheels on them?
- Location
- Lincolnshire
cheap design, you need the type with a fully welded plate round them to bolt the centre to.
Cowabunga
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- Location
- Ceredigion,Wales
There are at least three types of wheels plus the sliding short and long rear half shaft versions that can be fitted to these tractors, according to size and what the customer specifies.
There’s the standard adjustable bolted centre which is the most basic and lowest specification/cheapest. Then there are waffles, which are again adjustable but instead of eight welded lugs on the rims they have a continuous fluted ring welded to the rims almost continually to spread the load. Then there are the fully welded one-piece centre to the rims which are the heavy duty option. Waffles are often fitted to the front in combination with welded rears.
The wheels are not made by MF but by independent engineering companies that also make wheels for several other tractor brands.
I suspect that the OP’s wheels are the standard bolted lug design and overloaded periodically. Either that or they are somehow faulty, which I doubt very much indeed considering that he has several tractors with a similar issue.
My neighbour has 16.9R34 wheels crack around several of the lugs of his Ford tractors at one time, as a result of having a massive 14ton trailer carrying grain on a road which at least one particularly nasty acute bend on a slope that pushed the tractor sideways to the point that, more than once, the under inflated tyre [for the particular load] was pushed off the rim.
Nearly
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- Location
- North of York
@masseybreaker
Was given a set that had cracked around a crease in the dish.
10mm steel cold pressed into a dish shape will crack and then the little cracks join together over time and stress
Was given a set that had cracked around a crease in the dish.
10mm steel cold pressed into a dish shape will crack and then the little cracks join together over time and stress
- Location
- The North
I’ve seen them cracked and welded on class and jd, never mf but as duck points out they don’t make wheels,
I have to agree I suspect it’s the loads rather than problem with wheels ?
I have to agree I suspect it’s the loads rather than problem with wheels ?
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Is there any link to what are used on 50K, all mine are fully welded for 50k?
Cowabunga
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- Location
- Ceredigion,Wales
Welded on the back but could be welded or waffle on the front. Mine has waffles.
Nearly
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- Location
- North of York
I sold a good rim to a neighbour of @Dman2 a few years ago after his wheel cracked in the middle of a field.Several farms not that far from you.
First time the dealer had ever seen it
It's a well known problem.
It’s a very well known problem
- Location
- South wales
Never heard of or had any of ours done it big hours on them too
masseybreaker
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- Location
- wakefield
all makes of tractor do it . its a speed x weight issue also with bolted ones i think it makes a difference if the dish is central its loading equell
- Location
- East yorks
They have to be fully welded for 50kph
Nearly
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- Location
- North of York
as given to me
this was the good one that I sold on.
I took the other cracked one back in part ex and bolted Ford NH centres in.
this was the good one that I sold on.
I took the other cracked one back in part ex and bolted Ford NH centres in.
Cowabunga
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- Location
- Ceredigion,Wales
Yaiks !!!!!!!! I’ve never seen that before. Are they 42” wheels? The nearest thing I’ve seen was the front wheels of some older Same tractors fitted with loaders which have a small ring of bolts.
- Location
- Moreton-in-Marsh, Glos
I had problems with the square centres cracking on my Ford 7740 SLE.
Fortunately, when I bought my 8340, it came with some row-crop wheels including thicker square centres. So I took the centres out and used the thicker ones on the 7740 rear wheels. I also had to change the nuts holding them onto the 7740 axle to the type that are coned, rather than standard flat ones. (Apparently, these coned nuts were used on the 10 series).
I’m wondering if the flat ones can cause a ‘shock’ to the centre, because unless they are done up very tight, they can move slightly between the stud and the holes, when changing direction, causing them to eventually crack at any weak point.
Fortunately, when I bought my 8340, it came with some row-crop wheels including thicker square centres. So I took the centres out and used the thicker ones on the 7740 rear wheels. I also had to change the nuts holding them onto the 7740 axle to the type that are coned, rather than standard flat ones. (Apparently, these coned nuts were used on the 10 series).
I’m wondering if the flat ones can cause a ‘shock’ to the centre, because unless they are done up very tight, they can move slightly between the stud and the holes, when changing direction, causing them to eventually crack at any weak point.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
The cone nuts started out on diesel majors!, the flat ones stay tight whereas a cone one once loose keeps loosening... rapidly.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Never seen a dish with those big holes not opposite each other... what do they do anyway... provide a lifting point?