meanwhile in Texas...

[Lofty1984]

Double tap once to the body one to the head

 

[ollie989898]

Double tap once to the body one to the head

I see you've played Red Dead Redemption 2 as well then.

 

[Ranger Security Solutions]

That is what training is for....

Same as when soldiers are trained to fire in aimed short bursts. Although these days, the rifles are designed to do this anyway.

The British military spend a lot of time and money on training, not least: law of armed conflict, Geneva Convention, weapon handling, marksmanship principles, aggressive tactical scenarios and simulations to create experience and exposure to high pressure situations, yet some (very very few) still get it wrong unfortunately.

Most Brit mil standard issue automatic weapons have a two mode fire selection; single or full automatic.

 

[Ranger Security Solutions]

Shooting the same target with an SLR twice is surely a waste of ammo. Wicked weapon. Interestingly the US army is now playing with developmental weapons that head back to the much larger cartridge- 6.8x51 I think.

SLR was OK but should have had a fully automatic option.

 

[steveR]

SLR was OK but should have had a fully automatic option.

Would the standard barrel have taken it??

 

[ollie989898]

Would the standard barrel have taken it??

Wouldn't matter- you can get fully automatic fire out of any barrel length, just not for sustained periods. In reality you could shove 3 or 4 mags out of anything nearly before the heat became daft and the barrel began slinging shots all over the shop and losing accuracy. In reality you'd chew through your ammo load pretty quickly if you did this.

Notice how machine guns have heavier barrels and/or fire from an open bolt to help with heat management.

 

[steveR]

Wouldn't matter- you can get fully automatic fire out of any barrel length, just not for sustained periods. In reality you could shove 3 or 4 mags out of anything nearly before the heat became daft and the barrel began slinging shots all over the shop and losing accuracy. In reality you'd chew through your ammo load pretty quickly if you did this.

Notice how machine guns have heavier barrels and/or fire from an open bolt to help with heat management.

Exactly....

 

[davidroberts30]

Wouldn't matter- you can get fully automatic fire out of any barrel length, just not for sustained periods. In reality you could shove 3 or 4 mags out of anything nearly before the heat became daft and the barrel began slinging shots all over the shop and losing accuracy. In reality you'd chew through your ammo load pretty quickly if you did this.

Notice how machine guns have heavier barrels and/or fire from an open bolt to help with heat management.

Tbf full auto is generally for show or indescriminant clearance
Any more than 5 or 6 and your aim will be off(muzzle lift)

 

[ollie989898]

Exactly....

But MGs are designed to shoot hundreds of rounds in a short space of time. Some of them are even belt fed for this reason. I've fired several mags through an AK47 in quick succession before and it basically becomes too hot to handle any sense, it won't self destruct, you just loose accuracy (or whatever accuracy you had to begin with).

Anyway whilst we are on the subject look at this thing the US are trialling to replace the M240 and M2 50 cal. Arma 3 eat your heart out- shoots .338 Norma magnum.- rapid fire orgasm.

 

[Ffermer Bach]

SLR was OK but should have had a fully automatic option.

I was sure it did? Just not used by the UK?

 

[Ranger Security Solutions]

Would the standard barrel have taken it??

Wouldn't matter- you can get fully automatic fire out of any barrel length, just not for sustained periods. In reality you could shove 3 or 4 mags out of anything nearly before the heat became daft and the barrel began slinging shots all over the shop and losing accuracy. In reality you'd chew through your ammo load pretty quickly if you did this.

Notice how machine guns have heavier barrels and/or fire from an open bolt to help with heat management.

Tbf full auto is generally for show or indescriminant clearance
Any more than 5 or 6 and your aim will be off(muzzle lift)

Some non-UK SLR variants (the SLR being produced for the UK based on the Belgian FN FAL design) had fully automatic options. But this became less and less, as @davidroberts30 mentioned, too many rounds alters your aim.

Fully automatic gives you the option for quick bursts when initially reacting to an attack (depending on the circumstances), and more particularly to give aimed 2-4 round bursts when working as a fireteam simply suppressing the enemy (making them keep their heads down and not shoot back) while a different team moves in to an assault position.

Gunner's with the GPMG or similar would change barrel every 2-300 rounds, depending on rate of fire; maybe a bit more depending on the situation and so long as the barrel wasn't glowing and bending.

This is way off topic...

 

[Ranger Security Solutions]

I was sure it did? Just not used by the UK?

As above, you're right the UK variant didn't.

 

[Lofty1984]

Some non-UK SLR variants (the SLR being produced for the UK based on the Belgian FN FAL design) had fully automatic options. But this became less and less, as @davidroberts30 mentioned, too many rounds alters your aim.

Fully automatic gives you the option for quick bursts when initially reacting to an attack (depending on the circumstances), and more particularly to give aimed 2-4 round bursts when working as a fireteam simply suppressing the enemy (making them keep their heads down and not shoot back) while a different team moves in to an assault position.

Gunner's with the GPMG or similar would change barrel every 2-300 rounds, depending on rate of fire; maybe a bit more depending on the situation and so long as the barrel wasn't glowing and bending.

This is way off topic...

Staying off topic I would absolutely love a bash on an mg42

 

[ollie989898]

Staying off topic I would absolutely love a bash on an mg42

Go to Poland (not to invade it, just visit) or the USA. I got to fire the rifle used by the red army in WW2- Moisin-Nagant.

 

[Lofty1984]

Go to Poland (not to invade it, just visit) or the USA. I got to fire the rifle used by the red army in WW2- Moisin-Nagant.

Yeah I went on a stag in Poland and got to let fly with one of those plus a load of others

 

[shumungus]

Was in my local gun shop one night (Its a converted garage in the corner of a guys yard, he only opens for a few hours in the evening cause he works full time). There was a chap there debating wether to buy a .50 cal or .338 lapua magnum, both rifles were second hand one was black, one was sand coloured. Up until that point I didn't realise an ordinary Joe Bloggs could own such a cannon privately.

 

[davidroberts30]

Was in my local gun shop one night (Its a converted garage in the corner of a guys yard, he only opens for a few hours in the evening cause he works full time). There was a chap there debating wether to buy a .50 cal or .338 lapua magnum, both rifles were second hand one was black, one was sand coloured. Up until that point I didn't realise an ordinary Joe Bloggs could own such a cannon privately.

Yes in the uk if you can show the need to warrant the caliber you can get it
Wouldnt need to leave the house to go foxing with the 338lm or 50bmg

 

[Bogweevil]

The UK has historically been a reasonably safe place without the population carrying guns for personal safety or deterrent.
The reality is as population expands the U.K is slowly becoming more lawless & life is becoming cheaper here year on year, I wonder how long it will be before we are witnessing similar scenarios like this at our side of the pond.

No it isn't!