Meat: a threat to our planet.

[Henarar]

We are just ordinary people who try to eat local and UK produced food wherever possible. We are back garden "hobby farmers" who are delighted when our spuds are bigger than a golf ball, and our 3 hens lay more than 1 egg a day! We really appreciate our farmers in the uk. This dismissal of meat recently seems really weird to us. We don't believe this media crap and will continue to eat our bacon butties (with real buttered toast) our Sunday dinner with lamb or chicken, shepherd's pie with beef mince and all the local fruit and veg that we can get our mitts on!
Only logged on to say that! Kind regards all from us!

Good post
That may get more likes than any first post has before

 

[Scouse eater]

Brilliant, thank you for your support

Thanks

 

[Dman2]

Funny how she would listen to 1 scientist but not listen to the 1 in Texas who questioned her ideals

 

[DaveGrohl]

Well I'm not as distressed about that programme now as I was before I watched it. It was boring for one thing but also pretty shoddy. I did smile when the credits rolled and there were a grand total of two academic consultants. Hardly an exhaustive look at the topics skimmed over during the programme. It won't go down in history as the moment everyone turned vegan.

There will have been a fair number of people watching that who will have noticed her hypocracy in flying all round the world. Her repeated use of very large numbers lost its power pretty quickly because she didn't put it all into any sort of context. She made very sure she didn't incriminate the viewer at any stage as being the reason food is farmed on a huge scale in the first place. And the complete refusal to mention that large scale monocropping is as much to do with vegan foods as any livestock enterprise. That is the thing that really annoyed me most about that programme in fact.

The whole "methane is shocking" story is just becoming tedious now. Ffs do some basic research you silly woman. If you did you'd find that it's just part of the natural above ground carbon cycle and that methane returns into plants again in a relatively short time, but all your flying about and consuming is dragging carbon up into the atmosphere that has been buried forever and isn't returning back there any time soon.

Maybe we should all club together and commission Chris Kesser to produce a film telling the general public how it really is?

 

[Bury the Trash]

We are just ordinary people who try to eat local and UK produced food wherever possible. We are back garden "hobby farmers" who are delighted when our spuds are bigger than a golf ball, and our 3 hens lay more than 1 egg a day! We really appreciate our farmers in the uk. This dismissal of meat recently seems really weird to us. We don't believe this media crap and will continue to eat our bacon butties (with real buttered toast) our Sunday dinner with lamb or chicken, shepherd's pie with beef mince and all the local fruit and veg that we can get our mitts on!
Only logged on to say that! Kind regards all from us!

I had to look up what scouse is that you can eat, looks good, is it basically a stew

 

[S J H]

It does feel wrong for westerners to be criticising what Brazil does in its own country. We had the chance to develop and cut trees down, they're only trying to do the same, whether right or wrong.

And all we do is send some champagne socialist over in a plane to criticise.

And at the end saying that she's stopped eating red meat, surely more soya, antibiotics and methane is consumed and produced by white meat, albeit more efficiently, but I doubt they have a clue about that. Not trying to put one side against the other, but I can't understand why red meat is always blamed.

 

[Scouse eater]

Brilliant, thank you for your support

Thanks

Welcome! ?

I had to look up what scouse is that you can eat, looks good, is it basically a stew

I had to look up what scouse is that you can eat, looks good, is it basically a stew

It's yummy! Liverpool people are affectionately known as 'scousers' from the meat stew often made by Irish immigrants who moved here after the potato famine. If you were very poor you had 'blind scouse' which had no meat in it, basically a veg soup!

 

[Happy]

Dont watch it then theres other options.

Channel 5 ..Chris Tarrant : the railways of the Somme.

I didn’t.
Decided tonight just before 9pm was the time to start tackling 3 months of VAT
Far less stressful by the sounds of it.

The good news is the vast majority of the great British public would be glued to I’m a Celebrity instead leaving just those already brainwashed by Countryfile (after which this show has been heavily trailed the past 2 weeks) as the main audience.

 

[Scouse eater]

Good post
That may get more likes than any first post has before

Thanks Henarar !

 

[Still Farming]

I didn’t.
Decided tonight just before 9pm was the time to start tackling 3 months of VAT
Far less stressful by the sounds of it.

The good news is the vast majority of the great British public would be glued to I’m a Celebrity instead leaving just those already brainwashed by Countryfile (after which this show has been heavily trailed the past 2 weeks) as the main audience.

Ha ha.
They all save the planet paper free sending invoices out ,and we got to print out afterwards???

 

[Still Farming]

It does feel wrong for westerners to be criticising what Brazil does in its own country. We had the chance to develop and cut trees down, they're only trying to do the same, whether right or wrong.

And all we do is send some champagne socialist over in a plane to criticise.

And at the end saying that she's stopped eating red meat, surely more soya, antibiotics and methane is consumed and produced by white meat, albeit more efficiently, but I doubt they have a clue about that. Not trying to put one side against the other, but I can't understand why red meat is always blamed.

When your so called on "top of the heap", you can dictate?
Try telling that to those starving in Africa or in Slums in India to save the planet ?
They most probably slit your throat ?

 

[DaveGrohl]

I did smile when the US beef woman refused to bow down and agree that Liz had a point, quite the opposite in fact. She looked sooo deflated, bless.

 

[Veganguy]

I knew a programme of facts would anger you slave owners.

I have never seen so much ignorance in one place - though I would expect complete ignorance on this kind of forum.

It would be so funny if it wasn't such a serious topic.

 

[Veganguy]

I did smile when the US beef woman refused to bow down and agree that Liz had a point, quite the opposite in fact. She looked sooo deflated, bless.

A loud obnoxious narrow minded American is never going to admit to being wrong and accept the facts as Donald Trump proves.

 

[vinnie123]

I knew a programme of facts would anger you slave owners.

I have never seen so much ignorance in one place - though I would expect complete ignorance on this kind of forum.

It would be so funny if it wasn't such a serious topic.

“Slave owners” ! Vegan idiots are the ignorant ones with their idealistic views that they like to force on anyone willing(or not) to listen.

Livestock and the British countryside as we know it would not exist if it wasn’t for the “slave trade”.

Luckily for us vegans will self destruct over time due to infertility and health problems.

So crack on @Veganguy go f##k yourself into extinction.

 

[Veganguy]

“Slave owners” ! Vegan idiots are the ignorant ones with their idealistic views that they like to force on anyone willing(or not) to listen.

Livestock and the British countryside as we know it would not exist if it wasn’t for the “slave trade”.

Luckily for us vegans will self destruct over time due to infertility and health problems.

So crack on @Veganguy go f##k yourself into extinction.

Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better slave owner.

Only a few hundred years ago society had no problem with the enslavement of certain humans and my god how things changed. People like you need to be careful - the future is not on your side.

 

[Veganguy]

“Slave owners” ! Vegan idiots are the ignorant ones with their idealistic views that they like to force on anyone willing(or not) to listen.

Also funny you want to talk about 'force' when you force many animals into an appalling live and death.

The brass neck of people like you attempting to play the victim.

 

[jondear]

50 layers down to 49 ?
Not even a meat bird and young red comb laying hen with next to no meat on her?
Daft.

Yes wtf .I thought that !It was a young hen .
Just put in for killing effect!

 

[Sid]

Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better slave owner.

Only a few hundred years ago society had no problem with the enslavement of certain humans and my god how things changed. People like you need to be careful - the future is not on your side.

Can you please stop with the cheap lines of abuse.
IF you want to be taken seriously and explain your point in a moderate and engaging way then stop using "slave owner".

It does absolutely nothing to forward your discussion on this subject.

Now can you tell me in terms of GHG emissions , water use resource and carbon sequestration combined with levels of energy and protein content,(so it's no good saying it 10% better if your producing 25% less nutrients) how much more or less impact your vegan diet has compared to a 100% UK agricultural produced diet?

Many thanks
Sid

 

[delilah]

Can you please stop with the cheap lines of abuse.
IF you want to be taken seriously and explain your point in a moderate and engaging way then stop using "slave owner".

It does absolutely nothing to forward your discussion on this subject.

Now can you tell me in terms of GHG emissions , water use resource and carbon sequestration combined with levels of energy and protein content,(so it's no good saying it 10% better if your producing 25% less nutrients) how much more or less impact your vegan diet has compared to a 100% UK agricultural produced diet?

Many thanks
Sid

Vegan guy has his own thread running in Livestock, he has spent weeks avoiding those questions you've just asked him.