MF Steering joint

[Dman2]

Hi
Should there be any play on these joints.
Both have equal amount of movement, so unsure whether they should have or not

 

[MF-ANDY]

No there should be no slack

 

[Lofty1984]

You will know it’s not right watch them on the road they will wobble easy job to change them both

 

[Dman2]

You will know it’s not right watch them on the road they will wobble easy job to change them both

Been told they can be pigs to get off ? especially the end pictured

 

[Lofty1984]

I’ve done a few they aren’t too bad wheel off job although I have done it with the wheel on, I’ve said that now it will be a pig for you

 

[forblue]

They should be Loctited on ram end so you may have to heat that end, extend ram as fare as possible and wrap wet rag around rod nearest tractor and don't heat too much, i use blue loctite when new one fitted.

 

[mo!]

I snapped a 27mm spanner taking one of them off. Worse thing is that the broken bit of spanner was catapulted through the front window. With hindsight the 6ft pipe was a bit excessive.

 

[ACEngineering]

i never heat them on handlers, just do it cold, 18" adjustable on one end wedged against the axle and a big pair of stilsons on the other end, which one undoes first is pot luck, undo one a bit then get a good fitting spanner on the rid and nip the ball joint back up to hold the spanner on the rod, wedge spanner against axle casing and undo the other side, then knock the track rod joint off.

I never put loctite on them either, often put copper slip on them! never a problem if you do them up tight after.

 

[Mur Huwcun]

I can’t remember heating one either or have much bother getting them off but usually only get the pleasure when they’ve parted company

 

[Farmer_Joe]

just use stilton's did one side on my mf few years ago was ok, ask mf for the sparex part way cheaper than mf, i would not heat personally. dont remember removing wheel either?

i carefully ground the ram a bit, there is a flat spot but not that wide to fit adjustable, made it slightly wider (no where near to extent the ram moves) and was much easier to remove.

 

[Lofty1984]

just use stilton's did one side on my mf few years ago was ok, ask mf for the sparex part way cheaper than mf, i would not heat personally. dont remember removing wheel either?

i carefully ground the ram a bit, there is a flat spot but not that wide to fit adjustable, made it slightly wider (no where near to extent the ram moves) and was much easier to remove.

So much easier with the wheel off especially if your changing both parts

 

[Dry Rot]

Some may have seen my thread on replacing a single steering ball joint on a MF 390. Not wanting to drag the propane cylinder out the shed, I used a kettle of boiling water as a heat source. Worked a treat where two spanners and a 4lb hammer (cold) made no impression. It wasn't a hard job but I had to use the grinder to cut the split pin on the castellated nut, then tap the nut off with a cold chisel. All done with the wheel on. Hope that helps!

 

[daveydiesel1]

Some may have seen my thread on replacing a single steering ball joint on a MF 390. Not wanting to drag the propane cylinder out the shed, I used a kettle of boiling water as a heat source. Worked a treat where two spanners and a 4lb hammer (cold) made no impression. It wasn't a hard job but I had to use the grinder to cut the split pin on the castellated nut, then tap the nut off with a cold chisel. All done with the wheel on. Hope that helps!

Never woulda thought a kettle of boilin water would make enough difference. Must try that next time im doin somethin thats rusted out as i dont have gas

 

[Lofty1984]

Never woulda thought a kettle of boilin water would make enough difference. Must try that next time im doin somethin thats rusted out as i dont have gas

What he really means is he made a cup of tea with shite loads of sugars to give him a massive sugar rush and undid it with his fingers

 

[Mur Huwcun]

Never woulda thought a kettle of boilin water would make enough difference. Must try that next time im doin somethin thats rusted out as i dont have gas

Hitting both sides of the TRE with two hammers will usually shock the rust away from the threads aswell. No use on the knuckle joint as it threads into the chrome steering rod though!!!

 

[Still Farming]

Whats your toeing in out out settings like?
Tyre wear patterns etc?
Individual part can be bought off sparex bepco etc .
WD40 soak and pullers gets them off when I did ours few years ago.

 

[Dry Rot]

Never woulda thought a kettle of boilin water would make enough difference. Must try that next time im doin somethin thats rusted out as i dont have gas

The whole kettle and dribble it on slowly. The advantage is it travels all around the bolt, unlike a directed flame.

 

[Dry Rot]

What he really means is he made a cup of tea with shite loads of sugars to give him a massive sugar rush and undid it with his fingers

You do realise that for that flippant remark, you won't be getting a Christmas card now?

 

[Lofty1984]

You do realise that for that flippant remark, you won't be getting a Christmas card now?

It was a compliment on your strength

 

[Dry Rot]

It was a compliment on your strength

OK. I'll send he card, but only a small one -- by 2nd Class mail!