Middle Tier GS4

[unlacedgecko]

Anyone fancy putting in 200ha plus and renting it to me?

 

[D14]

Anyone fancy putting in 200ha plus and renting it to me?

Had a guy offer me the exact same thing last week. Rent rate was quoted £150/acre.

 

[unlacedgecko]

Had a guy offer me the exact same thing last week. Rent rate was quoted £150/acre.

That's ridiculously high

 

[yellow belly]

cannot do this option on land that has an erosion or run off risk so most heavyer land is ineligable

 

[Flat 10]

cannot do this option on land that has an erosion or run off risk so most heavyer land is ineligable

Why does heavier land have that? Surely not an issue where it’s flat?

 

[Flat 10]

That's ridiculously high

Half that?

 

[teslacoils]

That's ridiculously high

A bit dear yes. But if you have organic manure to use you can still get a decent cut off it, then the rest of the grazing season.

 

[teslacoils]

Half that?

Yes, I was thinking it must be at least £75/ac

 

[yellow belly]

Why does heavier land have that? Surely not an issue where it’s flat?

all heavy land round here has enough slope to mole it and has run off

when w first claimed els we shoud have not declared run off risk

 

[Flat 10]

all heavy land round here has enough slope to mole it and has run off

when w first claimed els we shoud have not declared run off risk

I thought there was a defined slope angle in the handbook. Must have dreamt it

 

[Brisel]

GS4: Legume and herb-rich swards

Find out about eligibility and requirements for the legume and herb-rich swards option.

www.gov.uk

This paragraph needs to be considered when planning grazing (and rent!):

"The sward will be left to rest for at least 5 weeks between 1 May and 31 July, so that the majority of red clover flowers are open and available for pollinators."

This was the main reason I didn't want to claim GS4 on my herbal leys at my last farm as it wouldn't have fitted a mob grazing rotation. As it happened, the gamekeepers managed to persuade the boss to order that we didn't graze it during the bird nesting season then top/graze it in the autumn before he shot partridges over it We may as well have claimed the GS4 on it after all!

 

[unlacedgecko]

Half that?

Yes I could stand £75/ac.

 

[unlacedgecko]

GS4: Legume and herb-rich swards

Find out about eligibility and requirements for the legume and herb-rich swards option.

www.gov.uk

This paragraph needs to be considered when planning grazing (and rent!):

"The sward will be left to rest for at least 5 weeks between 1 May and 31 July, so that the majority of red clover flowers are open and available for pollinators."

This was the main reason I didn't want to claim GS4 on my herbal leys at my last farm as it wouldn't have fitted a mob grazing rotation. As it happened, the gamekeepers managed to persuade the boss to order that we didn't graze it during the bird nesting season then top/graze it in the autumn before he shot partridges over it We may as well have claimed the GS4 on it after all!

Daily moves and a 36 day rotation during that period

 

[unlacedgecko]

A bit dear yes. But if you have organic manure to use you can still get a decent cut off it, then the rest of the grazing season.

Cutting no good to me. I'd want to graze year round.

 

[yellow belly]

Cutting no good to me. I'd want to graze year round.

not on heavy land then

 

[unlacedgecko]

not on heavy land then

Long covers and daily moves with sheep should be ok

 

[teslacoils]

Cutting no good to me. I'd want to graze year round.

Yes, just doing some numbers to compare to the £150/AC .

 

[unlacedgecko]

Yes, just doing some numbers to compare to the £150/AC .

Id want a 5 year agreement.

Plan would be sheep in winter then sheep and cattle in summer.