Might as well pack up

[ollie989898]

They laid a clutch of eggs in the spring then went broody.
Ah well, well just have to get used to seasonal produce.

Tell them if they go on strike again you will eat them one by one. The chickens I mean, not the eggs.

 

[Zippy768]

Food prices on the shelf will go up, but not by as much as we would hope.
Supermarkets will keep prices down by once again squeezing the producers (us).

Majority of Farmers, by their very nature, will just carry on as usual because the price of their goods will look - in comparison to recent history of prices- very good.
Although little or no margin.


Or

Farmers are once again the King Makers

 

[digger64]

Go and visit an organic dairy farm and learn how they do it with slurry muck and legumes
It can be done

at 1300 I will halve the rate or more and take a lower yield
Needing less combine dryer loading and labour
1300 a tonne or £4 a kg of n needs wheat at 500 a tonne to maintain the rate

can be done - but not overnight and some of the schemes and restrictions will need binning tomo

 

[melted welly]

But a least we will have pristine clean air to breath in from all these trees as we slowly starve to death

They’ve all been flattened up here by Arwen and whatever the other one was called. I took it as a sign from god that carbon offsetting is a f**king stupid idea.

 

[Ffermer Bach]

So how is all this low protein wheat going to make bread using the Chorley Wood process? It's not just about yield. It's about quality.

to be fair, I think it would do the health of the country a lot of good if we gave up on the Chorley Wood Produced bread anyway!

 

[Ffermer Bach]

How long before the news paper headlines are ‘greedy farmers take greenwash subsidy to avoid growing food for the people’

It will of course be all our fault when ELM is blamed for driving up the price of food.

it should read Greedy National Trust takes greenwash subsidy and stops producing food the Country needs

 

[Llmmm]

Biggest problem is going to be the price of feed for intensive livestock/poultry units imo, most of them will not fatten/milk or breed without it. Corn price will offset fert ,fuel etc for the arable farmers. I expect big rises in the price of meat and milk or there will not be any

Milk and meat prices will fall as people have less money.People will buy cheap foods cereals.inputs of grain and fert will soar to leave farms in a bad situation.The future will be lower yields and to stay in buisness farms will go back to 60 and 70s style farming.British friesian cows giving 3500 ltrs off grass will soon be back

 

[farmerm]

What I don't get about these sky high grain prices, is surely someone down the chain is going to refuse to pay the increased costs? Even if it went right through to retail bread, at £10 a loaf not much would sell.

When wheat is £200 per ton a loaf of bread contains roughly 20p of flour.... Each £100 increase in wheat price only adds about 10p to the cost of a loaf...

 

[Northern territory]

Said on news this morning the Black Sea region feeds 660 million people. That’s a lot of mouths

 

[ImLost]

Milk and meat prices will fall as people have less money.People will buy cheap foods cereals.inputs of grain and fert will soar to leave farms in a bad situation.The future will be lower yields and to stay in buisness farms will go back to 60 and 70s style farming.British friesian cows giving 3500 ltrs off grass will soon be back

People will buy cheap foods - what kind of foods did you have in mind @Llmmm?

 

[Lowland1]

I would imagine the overseas contributors, many of whom face this same quandary every year will not be very sympathetic on this thread. Many of them have to have a few brave pills on board and a good calculator before making decisions, especially when many of them have extremes of weather to contend with and might not actually harvest a crop with 100% reliability some years.

We use 10 kg per acre per month of artificial fertiliser. I often wonder whether i could get away without some crops get it some don’t. However i am baffled by the fact that whilst there’s a war going on and it’s going to affect all of us why Governments are allowing market forces to dictate supply and demand. Obviously some people are making a lot of money due to this volatility. But truth be told the West has plenty of money to buy food. I think the UK population spends about 10% of it’s income on food so if the price doubles its 20% in Kenya it’s 50% do if the price doubles well the maths is simple. So Governments better get their acts together open up the fertiliser factories and start looking for so dirty fuel and cut some forests down.

 

[Lowland1]

Said on news this morning the Black Sea region feeds 660 million people. That’s a lot of mouths

In the Soviet era it couldn’t even feed itself. This is a real triumph for Western agriculture.

 

[SilliamWhale]

What I don't get about these sky high grain prices, is surely someone down the chain is going to refuse to pay the increased costs? Even if it went right through to retail bread, at £10 a loaf not much would sell.

Are they really sky high?

 

[SilliamWhale]

Go and visit an organic dairy farm and learn how they do it with slurry muck and legumes
It can be done

at 1300 I will halve the rate or more and take a lower yield
Needing less combine dryer loading and labour
1300 a tonne or £4 a kg of n needs wheat at 500 a tonne to maintain the rate

I said on another thread. N@ £350 and Wheat @ £200 is worse than N@ £800 and wheat at £250. Putting in all the extra costs and cashflow etc £250 isn't diabolical

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

I said on another thread. N@ £350 and Wheat @ £200 is worse than N@ £800 and wheat at £250. Putting in all the extra costs and cashflow etc £250 isn't diabolical

The worry is that we spend the money then the price of wheat goes down.

 

[czechmate]

I think I need a smaller spreader

 

[Werzle]

Milk and meat prices will fall as people have less money.People will buy cheap foods cereals.inputs of grain and fert will soar to leave farms in a bad situation.The future will be lower yields and to stay in buisness farms will go back to 60 and 70s style farming.British friesian cows giving 3500 ltrs off grass will soon be back

Food shortages will drive prices, take a look at what farm gate milk and meat prices are doing!

 

[CopperBeech]

A bit of starvation might actually sort out the massive joke that Uk ag is becoming. It might also sort out the absurd attitude most people in this country have to food production, land use and the countryside.

 

[Macsky]

A bit of starvation might actually sort out the massive joke that Uk ag is becoming. It might also sort out the absurd attitude most people in this country have to food production, land use and the countryside.

And the NHS

 

[Ffermer Bach]

A bit of starvation might actually sort out the massive joke that Uk ag is becoming. It might also sort out the absurd attitude most people in this country have to food production, land use and the countryside.

The attitude of the governing classes that the countryside is for walking dogs, rewilding and planting trees to stop climate change, and is populated by deplorables too.