Progress apparently. I think most who left MM round here no longer milk cows.
Yes according to old man fuel was 10p fert was £90 and land was £1500 per acre to buy not rent ! And milk was 25p but some gready pansyz still wanted 26p and we're prepared to shaft everybody else to get it
That is exactly what happened, the 3 'sons of Milk Marque' were forced upon us not wished for.I would have been just out of nappies by that point!
If everybody had wanted to stay together under a single umbrella like milk marquee wouldn't the competition committee have stopped or now anyway?
If you people are too thick to understand the currency smoothing mechanism then just take our word for it, there are no losers in it.
Join ARLA if you want ARLA to do really well
Pick a good Local Dairy if YOU want to do well
Simple really
I left and haven't looked back, sorry I know it's not being in "the gang" but I couldn't afford to prop the capital requirements of a bunch of board room dreamers, when I was trying to expand my own business, I also despise the money wasted at the top levels in ARLA when their "members" are fed peanuts.
I don't think the ARLA concept is a bad thing, but it's just setup for those already maxed out dairy farms who are happy to invest in the processing side, not those who are wanting to grow their own business.
NO Winners in it either - it's totally pointless!!!
ARLA say it's to "smooth out Volatility", but all it means is that in good times the reward is slower coming, and in bad times the bad is slower coming - the problem being that actually it does cost the farmer to achieve this, ultimately ARLA are furnishing a debt to achieve this - and Ultimately who do you think will foot the bill for this... Oh yes the "Members"
Join ARLA if you want ARLA to do really well
Pick a good Local Dairy if YOU want to do well
Simple really
I left and haven't looked back, sorry I know it's not being in "the gang" but I couldn't afford to prop the capital requirements of a bunch of board room dreamers, when I was trying to expand my own business, I also despise the money wasted at the top levels in ARLA when their "members" are fed peanuts.
I don't think the ARLA concept is a bad thing, but it's just setup for those already maxed out dairy farms who are happy to invest in the processing side, not those who are wanting to grow their own business.
And so many others. I raised exactly this point with the NFU, when the culls work and the TB cattle cull numbers dwindle where is all the extra milk and meat going to go? 30000 cattle extra say 50/50 milk and meat.If it weren't for TB I would have gone from 220 to 520 cows
I don't think the ARLA concept is a bad thing, but it's just setup for those already maxed out dairy farms who are happy to invest in the processing side, not those who are wanting to grow their own business.
I think you have hit the nail on the head why a lot of people especially ex DFOB men are with Arla SECURITYSorry, but what rubbish.
I'm not saying ARLA could never go tits up but the scale and trading history they have makes them a lot more secure than most local dairies. ARLA are the only buyer around here now that all the smaller daries have gone bust, most of them owning farmers money.
As for ARLA not being for those who want to grow their business, can you please tell me who else guarantees to pick up every litre you produce and pay you the headline price? If it weren't for TB I would have gone from 220 to 520 cows in 3 years at a time when other buyers were introducing A and B schedules. If I'd been on one of those I'd probably be bust by now.
Don't hold your breath on the badger cull working anytime soon Sid !!!!!!!!And so many others. I raised exactly this point with the NFU, when the culls work and the TB cattle cull numbers dwindle where is all the extra milk and meat going to go? 30000 cattle extra say 50/50 milk and meat.
another 120 million litres of milk IN THE FIRST YEAR then double the next and on and on. The beef not so hugely as some of the culls are already going into the system.
Arla is a great system where all those that produce more and push the price down in the troughs penalize all the rest, a real lets stick together co-op attitude. If i had a cow for every Arla producer that moan to me about that in the last 24 months i'd be milking more than 520 cows!
which part of the country are you from @cowgirl95 ?Don't hold your breath on the badger cull working anytime soon Sid !!!!!!!!
Well I respectfully suggest that you know nothing about the reason for culling!! Try living with tb on a daily basis not once in 4 fecking years!!! With TB you try and plan for the future and then watch it all get taken away by a bunch of animals you have no control over what so ever ruin best laid plans. 75% of the farms around here have gone down in the last 6 months with new infections after years of being clear, years i mean up to 5 as we have all been affected at some point.Yorkshire tb4 area no thanks to soft badger cuddling politicians
Market forces would keep it in checkAnd so many others. I raised exactly this point with the NFU, when the culls work and the TB cattle cull numbers dwindle where is all the extra milk and meat going to go? 30000 cattle extra say 50/50 milk and meat.
another 120 million litres of milk IN THE FIRST YEAR then double the next and on and on. The beef not so hugely as some of the culls are already going into the system.
Arla is a great system where all those that produce more and push the price down in the troughs penalize all the rest, a real lets stick together co-op attitude. If i had a cow for every Arla producer that moan to me about that in the last 24 months i'd be milking more than 520 cows!