MilkSure!

[lazy farmer]

There use to be an open policy on AB failures but it's all classed as commercially sensitive now so can't benchmark between buyers.

Barbers still seem happy to share....

 

[kp_n_plghng]

Did they give you figures for other processors?

 

[watcher72]

Barbers still seem happy to share....

Post the figures online then.

 

[lazy farmer]

Sorry alI they have shared is their figures verses the national avg which I have already posted

 

[ollie989898]

Did they give you figures for other processors?

Why would that matter though?

A milk buyer has stipulated, for whatever reason, that they want all their producers to fulfil some additional criteria. I can only speculate why this might be, but I suspect it might be something to do with their eventual customer and marketing reasons. From memory there has been talk of additional Johnes disease controls but don't quote me.

As such, since the farmer is in fact listening to his customer and responding to customer demands, he has two choices in this matter: comply with what the customer wants, or sell his milk elsewhere for an easier life, and there are no shortage of milk buyers in this region I can tell you that.

Competition, in a free market environment. It is a thing.

 

[kp_n_plghng]

Why would that matter though?

A milk buyer has stipulated, for whatever reason, that they want all their producers to fulfil some additional criteria. I can only speculate why this might be, but I suspect it might be something to do with their eventual customer and marketing reasons. From memory there has been talk of additional Johnes disease controls but don't quote me.

As such, since the farmer is in fact listening to his customer and responding to customer demands, he has two choices in this matter: comply with what the customer wants, or sell his milk elsewhere for an easier life, and there are no shortage of milk buyers in this region I can tell you that.

Competition, in a free market environment. It is a thing.

Did you mean to reply to me? I was just following on from @watcher72 's post regarding sharing of AB failure data.

 

[watcher72]

Sorry alI they have shared is their figures verses the national avg which I have already posted

I must have missed the national average data .

 

[lazy farmer]

1 failure for every 350 tests

 

[watcher72]

1 failure for every 350 tests

9200 producers in E and W
9320÷350=26.6
That s 26 failures every day? 0.3%failure rate. Or 1 failure for every producer in E and W every year!

 

[Tonka]

Isn't there a milk buyer in the north that never has any ab fails...…….

 

[lazy farmer]

9200 producers in E and W
9320÷350=26.6
That s 26 failures every day? 0.3%failure rate. Or 1 failure for every producer in E and W every year!

Yeap I think the figures quoted in the milksure information are fairly similar.

 

[In the pit]

All the lorries going into first milk in haverfordwest are tested before they are unloaded

 

[kp_n_plghng]

Thought 26 sounded a bit high so had a google.

3 a day? Second paragraph.
https://www.bcva.eu/cpd/milksure-vets-Feb19

 

[lazy farmer]

Thought 26 sounded a bit high so had a google.

3 a day? Second paragraph.
https://www.bcva.eu/cpd/milksure-vets-Feb19

The book for
Milksure states. There are around three bulk tank failures in the UK every day. These don’t include the ones we are producer realises they have made a mistake Them selves and forewarns the dairy them selves and forewarns the diary.

 

[lazy farmer]

I have just re read the info I received from
Barbers. It states we used to have a failure every 350 tests which is
Broadly similar to the national average where as now it’s every 2500 tests so a huge improvement.
So now I’m confused.
Sorry

 

[vantage]

All the lorries going into first milk in haverfordwest are tested before they are unloaded

I think that is standard industry practice so even if a tanker is a fail,they donot lose a silo.

 

[Beef farmer]

All the lorries going into first milk in haverfordwest are tested before they are unloaded

Only a snap test.

 

[kp_n_plghng]

I have just re read the info I received from
Barbers. It states we used to have a failure every 350 tests which is
Broadly similar to the national average where as now it’s every 2500 tests so a huge improvement.
So now I’m confused.
Sorry

Well I suppose if there's 7 separate farms milk on a tanker. That's 1300 collections a day, so 3 failures a day is 1 failure in 433 so in the region roughly.

Edit: Forgot about payment tests there's probably about 1200 of them a day too. So more like a failure every 800 tests. Perhaps your buyer couldn't work it out exact either, which is why they said broadly similar!

 

[kp_n_plghng]

I have no idea how many collections a day there are though just trying to work backwards to make your maths work! 1300 could be a bit low

 

[watcher72]

From what it seems is no one has any idea of how many samples fail at tanker or silo and how many fail on farm due to human error.

Not a good starting place to gauge from.