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- east mids
Looking for recommendations for suppliers of individual free access minerals… ie mag, copper, iron etc.
TIA
TIA
Minerals for ‘buffet-style’ feeding??
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ShooTa
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- Denbighshire - In the vale of Clwyd!
technically not allowed in the UK. afaik ( not that that stops us)
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- East Sussex
- Location
- east mids
Hmm perhaps some tailored mixes are better then. Thanks for the info
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- Ceredigion
FSL Bells used to do individual minerals, the idea was that they chose what the needed, they all chose salt so that was always empty , phos and calcium was popular as well , no one needed mag 
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- east mids
Yes… a bias for the tastier ones flaws the experimentFSL Bells used to do individual minerals, the idea was that they chose what the needed, they all chose salt so that was always empty , phos and calcium was popular as well , no one needed mag
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- Fife
I attended a talk last month where the researcher said that cows don't make good choices.
The consumption of individual minerals was unrelated to the requirements as shown by blood tests and liver biopsies.
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- Aberdeenshire
Yep it’s related to the salt or molasses content of the carrier. Reps like to tell you that they take what they want.
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- Montgomeryshire
I’ve yet to see any evidence that any animal (including humans) will self medicate correctly given such a choice, despite what mineral salesmen might claim.
Adam@Rumen
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- Location
- Nantwich/Rishton
Just to echo above, not sure how you'd get them to take the required/desired quantites - some minerals are required at such miniscule amounts you would end up overdosing them.
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- Dumfries & Galloway
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- Montgomeryshire
That's not to get minerals into them, they just use a dehydrated animal's requirement for salt in order to give them a big dose of Deccox. Even that doesn't work as well now, as DB have added more palatable ingredients to be able to continue marketing them as a 'nutritional supplement', rather than have the cost of getting through medicine regs.
There is no evidence, that I've seen, to support the idea that lambs will go and nibble on a bucket to get a bit of Cobalt when needed, for example.
I’ve read these, and it’s quite interesting in regards to animals self selecting required nutrients:
Nourishment: What Animals Can Teach Us about Rediscovering Our Nutritional Wisdom : Provenza, Fred: Amazon.co.uk: Books
Nourishment: What Animals Can Teach Us about Rediscovering Our Nutritional Wisdom : Provenza, Fred: Amazon.co.uk: Books
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Wild Health: How Animals Keep Themselves Well And What We Can Learn From Them: Amazon.co.uk: Engel, Dr Cindy: 9781800492783: Books
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- Dumfries & Galloway
I didn't say it was to get mineral... your comment which I quoted, I thought you moved on or were talking broadly about animals not taking what they need and you used the term self medicating. The decox buckets are medication which is why I mentioned those buckets as that's how they're supposed to work..
As an aside they surely can't get round 'medicine regs' as it's a prescription bucket for the decox?
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- Montgomeryshire
The deccox is a readily available POM medicinal product, added to these 'feed' buckets, just the same as you can have it added to creep feed, etc.
I would assume, if these were to be sold as a medicinal product then they'd have to go through the same (expensive) testing regime as other medicines (like Deccox) do, which wouldn't be affordable.
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- Dumfries & Galloway
So does that mean these buckets don't need a prescription from your vet anymore?
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
No, they need a prescription because they have a POM included. It's just the same with having Deccox added to lamb creep, that needs a vet prescription too.
Dear Producers, please consider your comments here. This practice is not legal in the UK.
Copper and selenium will accumulate in the animal and kill them.
P A Bone Ruminant Mineral Consultant