Monbiot's TV show.....Apocalypse Cow: How Meat Killed the Planet

Yosemite Sam

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Location
Wiltshire
I actually wonder how many people take any notice of all this “what you should eat propaganda “. We had it all years ago with butter, salt and numerous other things, to be told later that the information was wrong.
 

Wellytrack

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It was the cows wot done it....
 

egbert

Member
Hmm.
I'd like to think it'll go away, but it ain't.
Look at what Gove believes, and who he put in position.

Anyway..... I'm tired.
I've been rained on more or les continually for 3 months, I'm feeding 300 cattle which aren't worth much at all - well, to anyone else- and don't look like being worth much anytime soon.
Meanwhile it feels like every smug urban w*nker in the media wants to shout how terrible my community and I are, destroying the planet with our evil burping farting cows.
(my cows don't seem to be doing this with much malice aforethought...they are just happy if a nice bale turns up in the feeder in the morning)

I've patiently responded week after week, calling out the half-baked nonsense for what it is.
I've tried to rein in our own side when we make silly claims.
I've kept on telling Joe Public to think through the actual chemistry and processes.
But the likes of Monbiot just go on and on, fixated on their disingenuous message.

I've tried not to let it get me down.
I've hoped that DEFRA would come out and say it loud and clear that we should be growing as much of our own food as we sensibly can, and that grazing livestock is one of the very best ways of doing this.
I've waited and hoped that some media savvy champion will blow them out of the water - and the unlikely best we've got seems to be Piers Morgan, who'd I'd otherwise describe as odious.

I'm sick of it now.
Fairness and honesty don't seem to work.
They go on attacking everything that I am, relentless, peddling lies to do it, while living in a system themselves which very evidently is destroying the natural environment.

You know something fellas?
I just want to respond with a heavy blackthorn cudgel now.
 

unlacedgecko

Member
Livestock Farmer
Hmm.
I'd like to think it'll go away, but it ain't.
Look at what Gove believes, and who he put in position.

Anyway..... I'm tired.
I've been rained on more or les continually for 3 months, I'm feeding 300 cattle which aren't worth much at all - well, to anyone else- and don't look like being worth much anytime soon.
Meanwhile it feels like every smug urban w*nker in the media wants to shout how terrible my community and I are, destroying the planet with our evil burping farting cows.
(my cows don't seem to be doing this with much malice aforethought...they are just happy if a nice bale turns up in the feeder in the morning)

I've patiently responded week after week, calling out the half-baked nonsense for what it is.
I've tried to rein in our own side when we make silly claims.
I've kept on telling Joe Public to think through the actual chemistry and processes.
But the likes of Monbiot just go on and on, fixated on their disingenuous message.

I've tried not to let it get me down.
I've hoped that DEFRA would come out and say it loud and clear that we should be growing as much of our own food as we sensibly can, and that grazing livestock is one of the very best ways of doing this.
I've waited and hoped that some media savvy champion will blow them out of the water - and the unlikely best we've got seems to be Piers Morgan, who'd I'd otherwise describe as odious.

I'm sick of it now.
Fairness and honesty don't seem to work.
They go on attacking everything that I am, relentless, peddling lies to do it, while living in a system themselves which very evidently is destroying the natural environment.

You know something fellas?
I just want to respond with a heavy blackthorn cudgel now.

I'll hold him you hit him
 

lloyd

Member
Location
Herefordshire
Hmm.
I'd like to think it'll go away, but it ain't.
Look at what Gove believes, and who he put in position.

Anyway..... I'm tired.
I've been rained on more or les continually for 3 months, I'm feeding 300 cattle which aren't worth much at all - well, to anyone else- and don't look like being worth much anytime soon.
Meanwhile it feels like every smug urban w*nker in the media wants to shout how terrible my community and I are, destroying the planet with our evil burping farting cows.
(my cows don't seem to be doing this with much malice aforethought...they are just happy if a nice bale turns up in the feeder in the morning)

I've patiently responded week after week, calling out the half-baked nonsense for what it is.
I've tried to rein in our own side when we make silly claims.
I've kept on telling Joe Public to think through the actual chemistry and processes.
But the likes of Monbiot just go on and on, fixated on their disingenuous message.

I've tried not to let it get me down.
I've hoped that DEFRA would come out and say it loud and clear that we should be growing as much of our own food as we sensibly can, and that grazing livestock is one of the very best ways of doing this.
I've waited and hoped that some media savvy champion will blow them out of the water - and the unlikely best we've got seems to be Piers Morgan, who'd I'd otherwise describe as odious.

I'm sick of it now.
Fairness and honesty don't seem to work.
They go on attacking everything that I am, relentless, peddling lies to do it, while living in a system themselves which very evidently is destroying the natural environment.

You know something fellas?
I just want to respond with a heavy blackthorn cudgel now.

Well whatever you do dont watch the fisher king it might give you ideas.
Dont panic just yet not sure educated people are believing all this nonsense.
My wife thinks Dracula is real you think you've got problems. :)
 

JP1

Member
Livestock Farmer
Hmm.
I'd like to think it'll go away, but it ain't.
Look at what Gove believes, and who he put in position.

Anyway..... I'm tired.
I've been rained on more or les continually for 3 months, I'm feeding 300 cattle which aren't worth much at all - well, to anyone else- and don't look like being worth much anytime soon.
Meanwhile it feels like every smug urban w*nker in the media wants to shout how terrible my community and I are, destroying the planet with our evil burping farting cows.
(my cows don't seem to be doing this with much malice aforethought...they are just happy if a nice bale turns up in the feeder in the morning)

I've patiently responded week after week, calling out the half-baked nonsense for what it is.
I've tried to rein in our own side when we make silly claims.
I've kept on telling Joe Public to think through the actual chemistry and processes.
But the likes of Monbiot just go on and on, fixated on their disingenuous message.

I've tried not to let it get me down.
I've hoped that DEFRA would come out and say it loud and clear that we should be growing as much of our own food as we sensibly can, and that grazing livestock is one of the very best ways of doing this.
I've waited and hoped that some media savvy champion will blow them out of the water - and the unlikely best we've got seems to be Piers Morgan, who'd I'd otherwise describe as odious.

I'm sick of it now.
Fairness and honesty don't seem to work.
They go on attacking everything that I am, relentless, peddling lies to do it, while living in a system themselves which very evidently is destroying the natural environment.

You know something fellas?
I just want to respond with a heavy blackthorn cudgel now.
I can’t like this enough ^^^^^

That Professor Boyd’s left a whole host of apparatchiks in DEFRA to carry on this crazy mantra
 

bovrill

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
East Essexshire
Dont panic just yet not sure educated people are believing all this nonsense.
I think part of the problem we see now is that it's the educated people peddling these lies, and the recently educated and currently being educated that are being indoctrinated.
Just because someone has a university education, and therefore classed as well educated, it doesn't mean that they're intelligent.

(That's a lot of 'educations' in two short sentences!)
 
You just can't get away from the fact that ruminants carry out a vital role in the cycle of life- they eat roughage and convert it into high quality protein (and fat) as meat and milk, leaving behind valuable manure.
The "experts" seek to overcomplicate things- trying to replicate what ruminants do via manufactured food, by trying to bypass agriculture.
Sure, agriculture needs to change, we can be the solution to the climate problem (perceived or otherwise), not via the latest climate conference inspired wheeze, such as biogas or carbon credits but by low tech methods used in regenerative agriculture. (mob grazing, notill, etc etc).
Why can't UK Agriculture go on the offensive and take these to the media, or have a go at the newly announced Earthshot Prize.
 

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