Most PROFITABLE suckler cow breed!!!

Discussion in 'Agricultural Matters' started by Bossfarmer, May 25, 2019.

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What breed is the most profitable out of the following

  1. Charolais

    7 vote(s)
    6.3%
  2. Simmental

    14 vote(s)
    12.6%
  3. Limousin

    17 vote(s)
    15.3%
  4. Saler

    12 vote(s)
    10.8%
  5. Stabiliser

    19 vote(s)
    17.1%
  6. Aberdeen angus

    22 vote(s)
    19.8%
  7. Hereford

    11 vote(s)
    9.9%
  8. British blue

    2 vote(s)
    1.8%
  9. Shorthorn

    7 vote(s)
    6.3%
  1. Out of interest what breed do you find most profitable?
     
  2. windymiller

    windymiller Member

    Location:
    mid wales
    Angusxhereford cow put to a charolais bull for the store trade.
     
  3. Sharpy

    Sharpy Member

    Location:
    Ardrossan Ayrshire
    To get any real info from this you need to know the farm type,, eg lowland, upland, hill, high hill, wet hill, arable and length of winter and rainfall. Peoples winters on here range from 6 weeks inside to 7 months. In fact, most of the above within 10 miles of me...........
     
  4. Farmer Fin

    Farmer Fin Member

    This will be a good argument! As much variation between breeds as within breeds. 3 way cross for hybrid vigour. Just got to work out what the cross is the best for your farm. Biggest issue seems to be the massive genetic variation on any given farm and between to allow a fair comparison.
     
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  5. Pebd99

    Pebd99 Member

    Location:
    Aberdeenshire
    The breed that gives a calf or 2 every year for 15 years. Never found that breed. Personally limousin’s seem to trade well for me.
     
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  6. Hooby Farmer

    Hooby Farmer Member

    Location:
    roe valley
    This should be interesting
     

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  7. Lowland farm 7 month winters
     
  8. Werzle

    Werzle Member

    Location:
    Midlands
    For the man selling stores the Black lim put to the charolais with 4 month winters . You couldnt beat the black hfd put to the charolais but the feeding men started to complain they put too much fat on and started to give alot less for them. If you have room and acres to fatten your own calves it could be any breed
     
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  9. Werzle

    Werzle Member

    Location:
    Midlands
    If i had seven month winters the cows would be sold
     
  10. DrWazzock

    DrWazzock Member

    Location:
    Lincolnshire
    Black Limousin
     
  11. Brisel

    Brisel Member

    Location:
    Dorset
    The one that suits your location, system and market the best.
     
  12. sodbuster

    sodbuster Member

    Anything that will wean a calf in excess of 50% of her weight at 6mths old
     
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  13. Poorbuthappy

    Poorbuthappy Member

    Location:
    Devon
    Bored @Bossfarmer ?


    This -
    Plus what you like working with .
     
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  14. DrWazzock

    DrWazzock Member

    Location:
    Lincolnshire
    Whatever you can get hold of from a TB4 area from somebody reputable within a reasonable distance are also factors. There is a limit to how long you can spend going to markets or going to look at stock, listening to baloney and how clever people are and transporting them miles.

    Which is why we just buy stirks and fatten them. Too much to do without the breeding malarkey.

    The most profitable sucklers I ever bought were two very poor british white 3 year old small cows that they put on to make up a load. Each calved on its own to a white shorthorn bull for two years. I kept the calves as bulls as sold them fat at 13 months old about 520 kg. They wouldnt have won any prices in the christmas fatstock show but they made more profit for the little they ate and the little trouble they casued than any other beast i have ever kept since. Two very nice, lively little cows who were attentive good milking mothers.
     
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  15. DrWazzock

    DrWazzock Member

    Location:
    Lincolnshire
    I'd go black Lims now given a choice. I find pure native mothers produce calves that get too fat before they get heavy enough here for some reason or maybe its becasue I feed too many oats.
     

  16. Friesian or Holstein.
     
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  17. capfits

    capfits Member

    I just wonder how many run different breeds or even different sires let alone homebred, bought in, health status, local market input supply base etc to make a considers judgement.
    If you are not how can you compare breeds let alone the other factors mentioned.
    Having a multiple breed system it is.....
    Do you think I want a flooded market?;)
     
  18. bumkin

    bumkin Member

    Location:
    pembrokeshire
    we used to buy sucled calves at eight to ten months and my favourite were black lims unfortunately due to factors beyond my control we are packing up finishing the reasons are the weight limit, and the drop in price which means they don't come to enough money and the other problem T B if we have to bring stock in for testing its a bore you might get them in for the first test but they are reluctant for the reading so sod it when i see charley weaners making £1100 to £1200 where can you go from there are some people getting more money than me for their fat stock
     
  19. A mix of hereford cross and aberdeen angus cross here. They do not eat too much or take much looking after and are out wintered. I have a hereford bull here this year as I fancy a go at producing black baldies.
     
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  20. plenty of muck from a 7 month winter, that not the point? that and the calf headage payments
     

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