Moving a UK farm to France - consultancy advice / ideas please

As from january 2021 they wont pay your subsidy as you are an illegal immigrant, But they may not pay it anyway,
Hopefully they will pay the French business which is claiming it! We will be applying for the new carte de sejour once they open the new web site that they are building for us illegal immigrants. You are a cheery soul this evening! I was going to pm you with a question but I will perhaps leave it.
 

will l

Member
Arable Farmer
Hopefully they will pay the French business which is claiming it! We will be applying for the new carte de sejour once they open the new web site that they are building for us illegal immigrants. You are a cheery soul this evening! I was going to pm you with a question but I will perhaps leave it.
Are you not the Dirigeant then?
 
Of our GAEC we are 50/50 we have done what we can to mitigate the circumstances. With any luck all will be ok. We will apply for the carte de sejour as soon as they launch the website. As I understand it, it is highly unlikely that we will have a problem. If we do we will deal with it as and when it happens.
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
We love it. We have friends both French and English. I personally don’t miss family, in some ways some distance between us has done the relationship good! We are not that social so it doesn’t bother us really. Lock down has been a joy! The language is a barrier but you pick it up the more you use it, in my opinion the secret is to not be embarrassed and jump in and have a go. We don’t watch a lot of tv anyway in fact i can’t remember the last time it was turned on. Same for radio, we tend to spend a lot of time as a family and that suits us. It might sound like we are miserable buggers but we are happy with our own company. Having said all that I know the life doesn’t suit many, I believe one of the biggest reasons for people going back is isolation and boredom culminating in getting caught with your trousers down!?. I am glad you mentioned the getting sick thing as it reminds me we must contact the chambre d’ag as for an annual payment of 20€ they provide cover for sick or holidays, you pay 20€ per hour but they organise it. One thing anybody contemplating this needs to know is that it will really test your relationship with your partner from time to time and if things are a bit shaky something will break early on! It is wonderful and very rewarding but it can at times give you a sharp kick in the rubbish! All said and done Lucie and I have zero interest in returning to life in the U.K. and for my part I would if possible not even visit.

We could cope with that just fine too. As long as you have health and happiness (whatever makes you happy), does it really matter where you are?

In hindsight we should probably have made the same jump 8 years ago, instead of moving to a tenanted farm here, especially given the direction of current govt policy. That thought has not been helped by chatting with Mr & Mrs LBP at a family wedding, not long before we moved.
Hey ho, such is life.
 

Nigel Wellings

Member
Mark Booth, www.france-foncier.fr. Tel 0033 607019 706. e mail [email protected]

Mark Booth in my opinion would be of great help to you. I used him with a large arable business in France that I still have an interest in and I will doubtless use him again in future. He is the only properly french qualified English Land Agent in France as far as I am aware. He is straight as a dye (unlike a lot of other people operating in french property market) and has lived/farmed /worked in France for 30 odd years.Ex Seale Hayne (Good or bad?). Dont hesitate to contact him.
 
Mark Booth, www.france-foncier.fr. Tel 0033 607019 706. e mail [email protected]

Mark Booth in my opinion would be of great help to you. I used him with a large arable business in France that I still have an interest in and I will doubtless use him again in future. He is the only properly french qualified English Land Agent in France as far as I am aware. He is straight as a dye (unlike a lot of other people operating in french property market) and has lived/farmed /worked in France for 30 odd years.Ex Seale Hayne (Good or bad?). Dont hesitate to contact him.
That’s interesting. I have heard various comments about him over the years that differ some what from your experience. I have spoken to him a few times, he seems alright but I guess is as much after your money as everyone else as that is how the world works.
 

will l

Member
Arable Farmer
Mark Booth, www.france-foncier.fr. Tel 0033 607019 706. e mail [email protected]

Mark Booth in my opinion would be of great help to you. I used him with a large arable business in France that I still have an interest in and I will doubtless use him again in future. He is the only properly french qualified English Land Agent in France as far as I am aware. He is straight as a dye (unlike a lot of other people operating in french property market) and has lived/farmed /worked in France for 30 odd years.Ex Seale Hayne (Good or bad?). Dont hesitate to contact him.
You are completely wrong, he "installed" us, We were fined for his errors and he was uninsured,
 

Nigel Wellings

Member
Interesting Comment
I can only speak as I have found over 15 years or so of dealings with him, have never had a problem and have had some fairly complicated transactions involving him.
 

Veryfruity

Member
out of interest how do you cope with the isolation of no family & friends and assume poor french speaking? Financially, are you better off? Do you live the british life in France ie TV, radio, press etc. Finding employees or someone to help out if say for instance you were sick or had an accident?
It is very important to learn the language, we decided NOT to have UK Telly for the first ten years to help our French.
Of course we miss friends and family, but when they come to visit, it’s minimum a week and not a weekend, and so the kids generally get over that first day frost and get on, and we get to spend more time together.
Financially, now there’s a thing. For us, we bought and own our own farm by producing food, it’s not worth as much as a uk farm, but that only matters when you sell. We live very well, the health system is amazing, and our kids have all gone to school here privately. The French live well.
I have found employing local people easier than in the uk, as we live in a rural area with rural people, it is, though, expensive. They work hard, and don’t stop till lunch. Then it’s two hours.
Once you speak French, or at least try, neighbors are very good. There is solidarity here, we had a neighbor whose wife left him in the winter, he took an overdose. While he was recovering all his neighbors did his pruning ( vines).
It is different, and can be frustrating , like everywhere. There is red tape, and inflexibility but no Red Tractor. They want you to farm.
 

glasshouse

Member
Location
lothians
It is very important to learn the language, we decided NOT to have UK Telly for the first ten years to help our French.
Of course we miss friends and family, but when they come to visit, it’s minimum a week and not a weekend, and so the kids generally get over that first day frost and get on, and we get to spend more time together.
Financially, now there’s a thing. For us, we bought and own our own farm by producing food, it’s not worth as much as a uk farm, but that only matters when you sell. We live very well, the health system is amazing, and our kids have all gone to school here privately. The French live well.
I have found employing local people easier than in the uk, as we live in a rural area with rural people, it is, though, expensive. They work hard, and don’t stop till lunch. Then it’s two hours.
Once you speak French, or at least try, neighbors are very good. There is solidarity here, we had a neighbor whose wife left him in the winter, he took an overdose. While he was recovering all his neighbors did his pruning ( vines).
It is different, and can be frustrating , like everywhere. There is red tape, and inflexibility but no Red Tractor. They want you to farm.
Where are you?
 

Greenmachine2

New Member
Hello Everyone,
Can anyone on the forum point me in the direction of a Anglo French accountant that can navigate my way through selling my farm in the uk and relocating to France?
Thanks
 

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