MTD deadline...

[wanton dwarf]

Just stay under threshold.
HMRC force onto us they should supply their compatible software or Free apps.

I agree but I think you'll find they will want to examine accounts on a monthly basis eventually .. I wouldn't be surprised to find out HMRC are selling financial data to third parties.

 

[essex man]

If you have turnover above £85K .. you have unfortunately stuck your head over the parapet.

They are the ones who said i would be unable to do this as portal would be closed.
Not going to run around spending time and money on changing over when not necessary.
Currently takes about one minute to submit claim, so can't get any easier.
If they stop me using portal I will exert myself.

 

[Cowabunga]

They are the ones who said i would be unable to do this as portal would be closed.
Not going to run around spending time and money on changing over when not necessary.
Currently takes about one minute to submit claim, so can't get any easier.
If they stop me using portal I will exert myself.

It’s just as easy to submit using the new system. It’s just a faff setting it all up with a spreadsheet. Can’t honestly see any advantage to either us as business users or HMRC from the use of spreadsheets and bridging software. Seems to me to be just a job creation exercise or some department at HMRC trying to justify their existence.

Don’t exert yourself too much. I’ve heard that a hernia is quite unpleasant.

 

[radar]

After having to phone the Taxcalc helpline last month through me being thick, yesterdays submission was a breeze.

 

[essex man]

It’s just as easy to submit using the new system. It’s just a faff setting it all up with a spreadsheet. Can’t honestly see any advantage to either us as business users or HMRC from the use of spreadsheets and bridging software. Seems to me to be just a job creation exercise or some department at HMRC trying to justify their existence.

Don’t exert yourself too much. I’ve heard that a hernia is quite unpleasant.

Yes! Don't want a hernia.
Thing is i do my accounts with sage (an old version)
Works fine, spits out vat box amounts at the touch of a button each month.
It appears, from my limited exertion on this matter, i would have start paying a sub to sage to become compliant or change my software completely.
Both of those options look shite

 

[jh.]

I wrote to HMRC saying we are a small family farm only do around 20 to 30 transactions a month with no secretary and basically said I do not do any on line business cash transactions as have no idea how to be secure enough and since HMRC are not supplying the software or platform , I was not comfortable as a long established business to change.

They phoned me a few weeks later and asked some questions and said they would let me know .

Few weeks later a letter of exemption arrived saying to continue with old system.

No idea how long for but hopefully for a long time

 

[Y Fan Wen]

My accounting program must be well over 20 years old. I've just paid 54.00 to upgrade to the current version which includes mtd. They still provide a non mtd version for overseas customers

 

[Robw54]

Have you all met the VAT deadline today? Was it fun? I certainly enjoyed the conundrums presented, of acquiring Office365, creating and customising a template, acquiring and integrating the bridging software, registering it with HMRC and filling in the spreadsheet and uploading it. Done from scratch, starting this morning.

My accountant phoned late this afternoon to see how I was getting on and she seemed quite surprised that I'd done it all, as I had told her I'd be buckling down to it today and I think she had set it up for a few clients herself over the past week.

Yes, free bridging software which is an add-on dowloaded directly through Excel. Unfortunately I will have to pay £60 annually for Office, starting after the month's free trial ends a month from today.

Really can't see why HMRC forced his nonsense on us. What we actually upload to them is exactly what we have uploaded for quite a while.

Accountants have apparently been inundated with more paid work and they have been hiring more staff to cope. Not easy finding staff dependable and capable enough at shortish notice I imagine. Perhaps it is only a sly way for the Government to create new jobs while getting industry to pay for it? Looks very much like a job creation scheme to me. I'm not sorry to have opted out of that and done it myself.

It wasn't too bad actually and, as I said, I enjoyed working it all out and setting it up. If a 60 year old fart like me can do it, surely anyone can if they apply themselves.

Could have used Tax Optimizer which works with any version of Excel.

 

[Robw54]

They are the ones who said i would be unable to do this as portal would be closed.
Not going to run around spending time and money on changing over when not necessary.
Currently takes about one minute to submit claim, so can't get any easier.
If they stop me using portal I will exert myself.

Don’t quote me but I believe it’s for return periods starting after 1st April so the real deadline is 7th July.

I know of several people that submitted the old way since April and this maybe the reason.

 

[Cowabunga]

Could have used Tax Optimizer which works with any version of Excel.

I never had any version of Excel on a currently used computer. Only LibreOffice, which is a free Office suite.

 

[Cowabunga]

Don’t quote me but I believe it’s for return periods starting after 1st April so the real deadline is 7th July.

I know of several people that submitted the old way since April and this maybe the reason.

That's if you do VAT quarterly.

 

[radar]

Don't invest too much on MTD. Michael Gove just said that if he is Pm he will scrap VAT! Though he might still be tripping!!

 

[essex man]

Don’t quote me but I believe it’s for return periods starting after 1st April so the real deadline is 7th July.

I know of several people that submitted the old way since April and this maybe the reason.

Not if you submit monthly surely...?
Have submitted returns for April and May and can see june return on portal

 

[wanton dwarf]

They are the ones who said i would be unable to do this as portal would be closed.
Not going to run around spending time and money on changing over when not necessary.
Currently takes about one minute to submit claim, so can't get any easier.
If they stop me using portal I will exert myself.

Well just have an eye on the ball with HMRC .. they aren't reknowned for being your best friend.

Time taken with bridging software was not too bad .. will be about the same as the webpage, maybe a bit less.

 

[essex man]

Well just have an eye on the ball with HMRC .. they aren't reknowned for being your best friend.

Time taken with bridging software was not too bad .. will be about the same as the webpage, maybe a bit less.

They are going to fine me for accurately and promptly providing them with information??
Nothing is beyond them but given their general level of incompetence I find it unlikely that they have much of a clue what is going on.
Free Bridging software from aging sage accounting sofware seems a bit thin on the ground.

 

[neilo]

They are going to fine me for accurately and promptly providing them with information??
Nothing is beyond them but given their general level of incompetence I find it unlikely that they have much of a clue what is going on.
Free Bridging software from aging sage accounting sofware seems a bit thin on the ground.

Apparently they have said they will be taking a ‘soft touch’ when it comes to penalising those that haven’t done the MTD thing, at least for the first 12 months. However, you need to have been seen to have been ‘making the effort’ I was told, which by keeping digital records already (using Sage) you would be......arguably.

 

[Cowabunga]

Apparently they have said they will be taking a ‘soft touch’ when it comes to penalising those that haven’t done the MTD thing, at least for the first 12 months. However, you need to have been seen to have been ‘making the effort’ I was told, which by keeping digital records already (using Sage) you would be......arguably.

Put them in irons I say.

 

[farmerm]

Pandle is working for me and is free for my purposes...

 

[essex man]

[emoji317] Put them in irons I say.

[emoji1]

 

[neilo]

Apparently they have said they will be taking a ‘soft touch’ when it comes to penalising those that haven’t done the MTD thing, at least for the first 12 months. However, you need to have been seen to have been ‘making the effort’ I was told, which by keeping digital records already (using Sage) you would be......arguably.

Quick update on this. I received a letter from HMRC last week, telling me that I need to register for MTD for my next monthly VAT return, or they will apply penalties. By my reckoning, I've saved 15 monthly subscriptions since the date of this thread, and hopefully allowed them to sort out any gremlins in their system.

Being forced down the monthly subscription/cloud based route now though I guess.