New Zealand - Land of milk and honey? Holwellcourtfarm's tour 2017

[multi power]

Remind me, Are you talking about your election or ours?

Both I think, in fact apart from 12 hours I can't see much difference

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

Mate , if your going to draw a line in the sand, ffs don't draw it at the Strait, draw it at the top of the Bombay Hill!!

But then he'd have to include Wellington

 

[FonterraFarmer]

But then he'd have to include Wellington

, OK then we'll bypass Wellington,

 

[onthehoof]

This is basically the equivalent of a Hillary Clinton/Jeremy Corbyn alliance

It's not meant to make sense!

What will it mean for Ag policy Pete?

 

[FonterraFarmer]

Again, I'm unsure...
Seems to be quite a trend in modern day elections, this skinny majority thing.
Without actual clear leadership at the head of parties, crazy ill thought out policies, it's small wonder really.
Cue, a referendum to leave the commonwealth - does anyone remember the commonwealth?
I remember dad talked about what it meant...
I'm in favour of forming a republic, if anyone asks!!

The Commonwealth is just a reminder of where the British went and stuffed up, I'm all for a republic after QE2 kicks the bucket as long as we get a constitution that treats all New Zealanders equally, given the fact that we do not have an idigenous population and that we are all either immigrants or decendants of immigrants, so what are the chances of that happening?

 

[Kiwi Pete]

What will it mean for Ag policy Pete?

It's early days yet. Tax hikes are usually on the agenda for Labour- apparently the water tax now won't be happening, but they like to spend on all those sectors that claim to miss out. That usually comes from somewhere!
Base rates for lending will likely sneak up - one of their main goals is to make housing affordable for everyone so it will be interesting to see how they achieve that goal without too much 'Robin Hooding'
The Green party influence can't be discounted either - they of course would like to tax nitrogen and water pollution and stuff.. but I don't really know how much swing that will have against NZ First.

Hard to say, but those are the reasons most of us will have voted for the blue corner common sense without trying to make it "fair for everybody"
Life made no promises to be fair.

 

[kiwi pom]

The immigration thing could be interesting, will they cut work visas or working holiday visas, think they're talking of reducing it by 30000 a year. So umm who's going to do the work?
Plenty of companies round here have pretty much permanent vacancies now, many of the local contractors are currently receiving this years supply of overseas tractor jockeys. What's going to happen if they cant get in?

 

[CornishTone]

The immigration thing could be interesting, will they cut work visas or working holiday visas, think they're talking of reducing it by 30000 a year. So umm who's going to do the work?
Plenty of companies round here have pretty much permanent vacancies now, many of the local contractors are currently receiving this years supply of overseas tractor jockeys. What's going to happen if they cant get in?

I have a friend who has come out for silage every year since he left Uni. Always travels business class and always seems to go home with a wadge of cash in his back pocket. No idea what sort of visa he gets but the employer sorts it and it’s always legit (apparently). He’ll be gutted if that falls into a bureaucratic black hole!

He is one of many. It’s ever so fashionable to go to another country for 2-3 months and do exactly the same thing as you’d do at home! Maybe they’ll all come this side of the Tasman and stamp on grapes or pick mangos instead?

 

[kiwi pom]

I have a friend who has come out for silage every year since he left Uni. Always travels business class and always seems to go home with a wadge of cash in his back pocket. No idea what sort of visa he gets but the employer sorts it and it’s always legit (apparently). He’ll be gutted if that falls into a bureaucratic black hole!

He is one of many. It’s ever so fashionable to go to another country for 2-3 months and do exactly the same thing as you’d do at home! Maybe they’ll all come this side of the Tasman and stamp on grapes or pick mangos instead?

I used to switch between England, America and NZ. Not a bad way to live really get it right and you can avoid winter for a few years
Down side was constantly trying to sort out visas, medical and criminal record checks. I remember going to the cop shop here once and asking them to fingerprint me so I could send them to the FBI, "oi sarge there's an Englishman here gone mad"
9 11 made the American visas harder so in the end just applied for residency here.
Winston wasn't watching so I got in

 

[Kiwi Pete]

The immigration thing could be interesting, will they cut work visas or working holiday visas, think they're talking of reducing it by 30000 a year. So umm who's going to do the work?
Plenty of companies round here have pretty much permanent vacancies now, many of the local contractors are currently receiving this years supply of overseas tractor jockeys. What's going to happen if they cant get in?

Yep - my mate normally has 25+ folk from overseas come over for silage etc, already they have had trouble getting into double-digits.
Immigration say "go talk to Work & Income, get someone off a benefit" as if, anyone who feels confident pulling a trailer around sidlings is simply sitting waiting for the phone call to come to work
And so, they are quite short this year. About 40 tractors and 30 drivers, farmers driving the tractors, office girls driving the tractors... offer is there for me, but I've done my time.
Crazy, great whims they have

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

Yep - my mate normally has 25+ folk from overseas come over for silage etc, already they have had trouble getting into double-digits.
Immigration say "go talk to Work & Income, get someone off a benefit" as if, anyone who feels confident pulling a trailer around sidlings is simply sitting waiting for the phone call to come to work
And so, they are quite short this year. About 40 tractors and 30 drivers, farmers driving the tractors, office girls driving the tractors... offer is there for me, but I've done my time.
Crazy, great whims they have

So........

Perhaps after a few years of such antics the business folk will sort it out

Just in time for us to slip in unnoticed

 

[phillipe]

So........

Perhaps after a few years of such antics the business folk will sort it out

Just in time for us to slip in unnoticed

If you don't go soon the boat may well have sailed

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

If anyone is going to the 3 Counties Beef and Sheep meeting tomorrow night at Leighton Buzzard then I'm the speaker, talking about this trip.

See you there

 

[Big_D]

If anyone is going to the 3 Counties Beef and Sheep meeting tomorrow night at Leighton Buzzard then I'm the speaker, talking about this trip.

See you there

When are you doing one for us up north?!

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

When are you doing one for us up north?!

It could be arranged if my travel costs were met

I've spent enough on travelling this year already

 

[FonterraFarmer]

If anyone is going to the 3 Counties Beef and Sheep meeting tomorrow night at Leighton Buzzard then I'm the speaker, talking about this trip.

See you there

Leighton Buzzard is just up the road from where I used to live!

 

[Dead Rabbits]

I used to switch between England, America and NZ. Not a bad way to live really get it right and you can avoid winter for a few years
Down side was constantly trying to sort out visas, medical and criminal record checks. I remember going to the cop shop here once and asking them to fingerprint me so I could send them to the FBI, "oi sarge there's an Englishman here gone mad"
9 11 made the American visas harder so in the end just applied for residency here.
Winston wasn't watching so I got in

I have an English acquaintance who pretty much lives the same lifestyle. He hadn't had a permanent job for 8 years. Just bounced between NZ silage, lambing and tractor driving in England and harvest in the US.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

I have an English acquaintance who pretty much lives the same lifestyle. He hadn't had a permanent job for 8 years. Just bounced between NZ silage, lambing and tractor driving in England and harvest in the US.

We had a couple of lovely Dutch folk who travelled the world inseminating dairy cows, amazing the conversation and experiences.
Quite a circuit they had going...

I still occasionally get an email from them when they are in NZ, but haven't caught up with them since 2010.

All the best for your evening @holwellcourtfarm - no trade secrets

 

[Kiwi Pete]

BUMP

Been 6 months since we had a get together on here

Zombie alert

 

[stewart]

Off to the UK for a couple of weeks tomorrow, hope we have some sunshine while we are there, had enough of the rain and it is cold, only 8c this morning.