Non Roadworthy Ag Vehicles

[Martin Holden]

He’s paid the price as has the fatally injured lady for something many others would have risked. As they say an accident is only just around the corner. Sure he didn’t set out thinking this would happen but when it does you have zero control. Trailer must have been in a lousy state from the sound of it. Tragedy for all involved

 

[cattleman123]

yep the trailer had just been bought the tractor and dolly were borrowed to fetch it

I know but it happened

The insurance could be a little complicated....feel for all involved..What more can anyone say

 

[spin cycle]

hang on....it wasn't an ag vehicle was it....it was an old hgv artic trailer that was being towed

 

[Lincoln75]

hang on....it wasn't an ag vehicle was it....it was an old hgv artic trailer that was being towed

Does that make any difference ?

 

[betweenthelines]

Regardless of the law, was it a HGV, etc etc it's a total lack of common sense.

Does no one ever ask themselves "what could go wrong?"

 

[spin cycle]

Does that make any difference ?

well it wasn't an un roadworthy ag vehicle...it was an un roadworthy vehicle fullstop

 

[Henarar]

Regardless of the law, was it a HGV, etc etc it's a total lack of common sense.

Does no one ever ask themselves "what could go wrong?"

what did go wrong ? anyone know

 

[czechmate]

what did go wrong ? anyone know

I assume you do?
The borrowed 5th wheel let go of the trailer?

 

[Lincoln75]

well it wasn't an un roadworthy ag vehicle...it was an un roadworthy vehicle fullstop

Being moved by a farmer with a tractor , I dont get your point unless you are saying it wasnt another case of ignoring the law by a farmer?

 

[spin cycle]

Being moved by a farmer with a tractor , I dont get your point unless you are saying it wasnt another case of ignoring the law by a farmer?

so if you went to sale....bought an un roadworthy car and towed it home with a tractor....would that be an 'ag vehicle'

 

[czechmate]

so if you went to sale....bought an un roadworthy car and towed it home with a tractor....would that be an 'ag vehicle'

I am also struggling to know what point you are driving at. A 19year old lad killed a woman (and seriously injured another) when a trailer became detached from a tractor and is now going to prison. What the hell difference does what you call the vehicle make?

 

[Lincoln75]

so if you went to sale....bought an un roadworthy car and towed it home with a tractor....would that be an 'ag vehicle'

Twisted logic, you`d still be a farmer breaking the law with your tractor , whats so wrong with you that you cant accept what a judge said ?

 

[spin cycle]

I am also struggling to know what point you are driving at. A 19year old lad killed a woman when a trailer became detached from a tractor and is now going to prison. What the hell difference does what you call the vehicle make?

i think i'm trying to say it wasn't an agricultural vehicle.....i agree that it doesn't make any difference to the tragedy.... but the thread title implies blame on farmers....as far as i can see the trailer wasn't being used for an agricultural purpose....the lad could've done a deal and been on the way to the scrapyard

 

[Lincoln75]

i think i'm trying to say it wasn't an agricultural vehicle.....i agree that it doesn't make any difference to the tragedy.... but the thread title implies blame on farmers....as far as i can see the trailer wasn't being used for an agricultural purpose....the lad could've done a deal and been on the way to the scrapyard

Which lad? the farm lad with an agricultural tractor ? you need to give your head a wobble.

 

[RhysT]

It is a terrible thing but it would be good to know if it was something on the trailer or dolly broke/came off, or was the pick up hitch not latched properly and came undone?

I believe trailer connection to the dolly failed.

 

[geoff570]

In my view Ag vehicles should only pull trailers and equipment designed and certified to be used by them. They should not pull HGV type trailers on the highway anymore than HGVs should pull Ag equipment.

Larger tractors and trailers should be subject to an annual mot.

The current legislation is outdated and designed for 165s and four tonne trailers, not the current large high speed tractors and trailers.

Why should it be limited to large tractors and trailers it should be all vehicles even non road going scraper tractors , more people have had near misses scraping with a 135 with no brakes than anything else

 

[icanshootwell]

hang on....it wasn't an ag vehicle was it....it was an old hgv artic trailer that was being towed

This is what i thought, there are so many of those old hgv trailers kicking about on farms, some with dolly,s on them and some that have been welded with a tow eye, most are unsafe and most farmers would agree there unsafe, I bet 90% would fail on a road safety check. These are the trailers that get dragged out once a year from under the hedge & nettles, straight down the road to fetch hay and straw. Every farm sale i go to there will be one of these trailers for sale, How do people get them home?

 

[spin cycle]

Twisted logic, you`d still be a farmer breaking the law with your tractor , whats so wrong with you that you cant accept what a judge said ?

i'm not denying that this was a tragedy or that we should be more alert careful....what i'm saying that if the trailer was straw carting and it happened it would be a faulty ag vehicle and farming should take the blame....but this wasn't being used for ag purposes...it was being transported

 

[Lincoln75]

i'm not denying that this was a tragedy or that we should be more alert careful....what i'm saying that if the trailer was straw carting and it happened it would be a faulty ag vehicle and farming should take the blame....but this wasn't being used for ag purposes...it was being transported

 

[spin cycle]

more of a kirk man meself...he shoulda stuck to dune and x men

look going back to my analogy of a tractor towing an un roadworthy car......lets say you go to an auction and buy an un roadworthy car the proceed to tow it home with another car.....would you class that as an agricultural vehicle