North Korea

[The_Swede]

Not saying it is a good idea or legally justifiable, just what 'could' happen.

I will say however that in my view a clean decapitation of that regime would be of great benefit to the 25 million 'living' (read existing at best) under it. Rightly or wrongly there is far more of a humanitarian case than many of the west's previous exploits.

 

[Henarar]

Not saying it is a good idea or legally justifiable, just what 'could' happen.

I will say however that in my view a clean decapitation of that regime would be of great benefit to the 25 million 'living' (read existing at best) under it. Rightly or wrongly there is far more of a humanitarian case than many of the west's previous exploits.

and they went well

 

[The_Swede]

Quite, the Chinese certainly don't want the refugee chaos on the northern border, and the cost to South Korea of re-unification is enormous. As with our middle eastern forays once the war is won its a question of 'what fills the void'....

 

[dstudent]

and they went well

Why can t you feel the love?
It s an orgy of democracy and overwhelming peace and harmony in the world right now
We have to bring democracy to NK even if we have to bomb it in to smithereens and kill everyone of them commies in the process

 

[willy]

This is where NATO should really be doing something, but as per usual nowt gets done so USA, U.K, France and sometimes a few others get dragged into these conflicts.


Sitting on your hands is fine, but sometimes preemptive strikes can save a lot more lives and money.

 

[Sweepa]

This is where NATO should really be doing something, but as per usual nowt gets done so USA, U.K, France and sometimes a few others get dragged into these conflicts.


Sitting on your hands is fine, but sometimes preemptive strikes can save a lot more lives and money.

Can you give us some examples where preemptive strikes saved lives and money?

 

[willy]

Can you give us some examples where preemptive strikes saved lives and money?

We will never know what may have been if they weren't done!

Churchill wasn't keen on Hitler and everyone called him a war monger, maybe if he had been prime minster instead of chamberlain dreaming of peace, we could have avoided ww2 and saved 60 million lives.

 

[Old McDonald]

We will never know what may have been if they weren't done!

And we always know what happened when they were.

The A-bombs on Japan ended WW11.

 

[dstudent]

And they all did a bang up job in Iraq Afghanistan Lybia Yemen Iran Congo Sudan Palestine,Vietnam Korea . Nicaragua Haiti Paraguay Chile Cambodia, Guatemala Brazil Cuba , Uruguay, Argentina, and on and on
They ll all be writing thank you notes

 

[Henarar]

Perhaps NK is just trying to defend itself from the most aggressive country on the planet in resent years, the USA ?

 

[fudge]

Very disappointed NK's latest Middle test ended in failure. There seems little need for an arms race. Maybe China could create an unbreachable Missle shield, that should provoke a suitably expensive response

 

[arbel]

Perhaps NK is just trying to defend itself from the most aggressive country on the planet in resent years, the USA ?

Be that as it may, I doubt that the USA has any territorial ambitions where NK is concerned. No oil for a start!

 

[Clever Dic]

Why?
What NK did to us to warrant such an attack?

The quote of Edmund Burke is a reminder
"For evil to succeed all that is required is for good men to do nothing."

 

[Clever Dic]

Can you give us some examples where preemptive strikes saved lives and money?

Israel's pre-emptive strikes on Jordan, Egypt and Syria at the start of the 6 day war possibly saved the state and certainly saved many Israeli lives.

 

[fudge]

Israel's pre-emptive strikes on Jordan, Egypt and Syria at the start of the 6 day war possibly saved the state and certainly saved many Israeli lives.

Wasn't that proxy war fought between the USA and the USSR?

 

[Clever Dic]

I think we are now in the crucial hour of doing something if something is to be done. NK has not yet miniaturized warheads or perfected delivery systems.
China is the key but China does likewise not want a rogue state on its borders and desperately needs normalization in trade with the US so as to keep its growing aspirational but unrepresented public mass quiet.
If the US acts it will be with unspoken agreements with China 're trade and the probable de militarization of NK and maybe with the possibilities of a joint administration.
China will pick the US with certain conditions over NK,and ultimately the North Korean people will be better of for it.

 

[Clever Dic]

Wasn't that proxy war fought between the USA and the USSR?

No . It was a war caused by Nasser who built up a pan Arab frenzy largely built on his own ambitions to be seen as the leading Statesman of the Arab world and Isreal the state of which he never acknowledged was to be the subject of his
ego.
It did not end well for him . Sadat after Yom Kippur decided on talks and consequently got the Sinai back.

 

[dstudent]

The quote of Edmund Burke is a reminder
"For evil to succeed all that is required is for good men to do nothing."

People who live in glass houses shouldn t throw stones

 

[Clever Dic]

People who live in glass houses shouldn t throw stones

I don't honestly think you can compare the regime that is N Korea to the U.S.
Try and find a live dissident in N Korea.

 

[fudge]

No . It was a war caused by Nasser who built up a pan Arab frenzy largely built on his own ambitions to be seen as the leading Statesman of the Arab world and Isreal the state of which he never acknowledged was to be the subject of his
ego.
It did not end well for him . Sadat after Yom Kippur decided on talks and consequently got the Sinai back.

Well Israel was armed and finianced by the USA. The Syrians and Egyptians were armed and supplied by the USSR.