Mouser
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Yes, very much, interesting times ahead.
Northern Ireland Milk Price Tracker
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If it’s no deal, get ready for some pain
Stuart1
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I like your optimism, I’m a chancer so I’m on the same page as you
Stuart1
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Literal pin?
If pound stays weak SFP will be up. Milk price will rise and fall, as it has done since ever I can remember.
Beef and lamb will drop in the Autumn as more comes out, store lambs and cattle will be as dear as snuff, buyers will complain about the price of them but will keep buying anyhow.
We will get just enough to keep us going (farming isn't designed to make us rich!!!!).
Brexit, of course, will have nothing to do with any of it, but will be blamed for all of it.
Beef and lamb will drop in the Autumn as more comes out, store lambs and cattle will be as dear as snuff, buyers will complain about the price of them but will keep buying anyhow.
We will get just enough to keep us going (farming isn't designed to make us rich!!!!).
Brexit, of course, will have nothing to do with any of it, but will be blamed for all of it.
Dazedandconfused
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Post Brexit there will be no SFP, If "project fear" have got anything right then any product going into EU (including ROI) such as 40% of milk (either raw or as product) and 70% of lambs will have a tariff attached to finish any trade. Might put a bit of pressure on UK markets! Maybe that's why a milk price drop of 6ppl is talked about.
Don't worry, Boris will look after us. He'll allow the UK to import what it wants tariff free.
Don't worry, Boris will look after us. He'll allow the UK to import what it wants tariff free.
I really can’t wait . Counting the days.
I’ve 4 silo covers to burn plus the wraps and netting of maybe 200 bales. Completely forgot on the 11th of July.
Then there’s Mrs Willy’s homemade apple tart to look forward to. What’s not to like about the end of Oct?
Maybe ground rent will come down then as subsidies, SFP or otherwise, usually ends up with the landowner, great job if you own all your ground, if you're a lowly peasant, tenant farmer like me, then its a different matter................
6ppl drop will bring the price to about 19p, seem to remember getting 17p not that many years ago and that was as a member of the club
Sell your lambs as stores, there's always some mug to buy a lok of store lambs cos there's a powerful grass about this year.
Northern Ireland farmers will carry on farming, regardless of price/profit/weather/tariffs/brexit/no brexit/deal/no deal..............can't think of any more but I'm sure there are.
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I had imagined you would have had your own internment bonfire to put them on, along with that collarette.
Dazedandconfused
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Maybe ground rent will come down then as subsidies, SFP or otherwise, usually ends up with the landowner, great job if you own all your ground, if you're a lowly peasant, tenant farmer like me, then its a different matter................
6ppl drop will bring the price to about 19p, seem to remember getting 17p not that many years ago and that was as a member of the club
Sell your lambs as stores, there's always some mug to buy a lok of store lambs cos there's a powerful grass about this year.
Northern Ireland farmers will carry on farming, regardless of price/profit/weather/tariffs/brexit/no brexit/deal/no deal..............can't think of any more but I'm sure there are.
You're right, conacre will come down as will land prices. Nice to to get some sort of profit for all the work.
If prices stay down there will be a period of readjustment. NI exports majority of its food, and one of the most lucrative is EU and if we're shut out of it then will have to find elsewhere, probably at lower prices. Take off the SFP and its not hard to see businesses stopping due to financial pressure or just fed up. It takes money to farm, can't live on air. Lets hope the UK market has an appetite for home produced milk and beef!
Mouser
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What a downer, lighten up would ye. Do you think the eu take our products just to do us a favour? They buy them because they need/want them, if they buy them from someone else then where that country used to sell theirs is the market for ours. The UK isn't self sufficient in milk/dairy so no problem there other than the ones processing over the border.
Supply and demand rules the roost, too much, price comes down, too little, price goes up, it's not exactly rocket science.
Don't see an issue with milk crossing the border to be processed as it ends up back on UK shelves as finished product anyway.
SFP, if not replaced by the UK gov will be a bigger issue for many, but then again I've always said it would be cheaper to pay farmers dole money than SFP.
it's not over
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When Boris wins the next election on the Boris bounce,what a .....
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Well, seeing as you made it party political - we could always trust the labour party instead
, the party of land nationalisation and 'wealth' tax.
it's not over
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That party died in the 80s,it's new Labour,middle of the road conservatives, the hard left has gone as far as a political power is concernedWell, seeing as you made it party political - we could always trust the labour party instead
Jezzers is finished,they need someone like Yvette Cooper if they want power
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Of course it's business, I agree. Mind you, we'll see if it's just business when we deal with the Americans. Talk last night of them looking foreign policy concessions...
Anyway. There is a theory that markets are efficient (which they aren't always), which would mean that product flows to the most logical and economic market. Assuming that's where it's going now, then a displacement from that market would mean added cost of some sort, otherwise the product would already be going there. Not only logistics costs, but the cost needed to promote your product in a new region, and the discounts initially offered in order to get product to the point of use or sale. Nothing's impossible, but it won't be as good as what's being done right now.
But above all, in dairy, our threat is zero tariffs on incoming dairy goods, but facing tariffs the other way. Seems to me that what is good for our home market is in direct competition with what's good for a company hauling milk over the border.
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John McDonnell calls for collective ownership of land
Speaking at a rally in St Pancreas Church in London last night, the Shadow Chancellor vowed to replace the House of Lords with an elected senate and nationalise utilities.
Shep
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Don't forget, the EU lost us the Russian Market when meddling in Crimea! No help that time and we had to find new markets ourselves, was a painful time and it didn't help the last milk price crash, until the Chinese started buying again.
We have a carry out every week, doing my best to keep relations up, I hope we're all supporting the Chinese?
We have a carry out every week, doing my best to keep relations up, I hope we're all supporting the Chinese?
boumaticboy
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John McDonnell calls for collective ownership of land
Speaking at a rally in St Pancreas Church in London last night, the Shadow Chancellor vowed to replace the House of Lords with an elected senate and nationalise utilities.www.dailymail.co.uk
them boys would be some craic in power