Northern Ireland Milk Price Tracker

[daveydiesel1]

My dad used to say the government needs a dam good starving. He never saw it maybe I won’t either but it’s coming at sum stage. When other countries need the food fir their own people do you think they will send it here

Couldnt agree more. But the fact remains the the economy needs the farmer. He may not pay much tax cause he spends the money rather than payin tax, but the farmer supports so many other businesses that do pay tax. Think about it why do they give us a single farm payment in oct/nov? Its so that gives us a few months to spend it all before the end of the tax year so its into all the other businesses accounts and they pay staff that pays tax and they also pay tax on thier profits. If u think about it in depth how much of the sfp goes back to the gov in tax. In 1 way or another It has to be at least 50% mabe more plus it keeps us at it to keep cheap food

 

[jamj]

So they should give us more so that we can spend more and help the economy..

We need a campaign.

 

[daveydiesel1]

So they should give us more so that we can spend more and help the economy..

We need a campaign.

They wouldnt admit that but its the way it is. A farmer is doin it for the love of the job so the money he gets goes back into the business to pay bills and buy stuf which supports the economy whereas if they gave other businesses big cheques they wouldnt put it into the business as they are business men and have the attitude the business has to stand on its own and make money and the money theyd get from the government would be shipped into an of shore account with no tax and kept as a retirement policy. Just think how many businesses is supported by farmers and all the ppl they employ and companys that they in turn support all of which pays tax at every stage. It all ends up back in the governments pockets down the line

 

[Whitewalker]

They wouldnt admit that but its the way it is. A farmer is doin it for the love of the job so the money he gets goes back into the business to pay bills and buy stuf which supports the economy whereas if they gave other businesses big cheques they wouldnt put it into the business as they are business men and have the attitude the business has to stand on its own and make money and the money theyd get from the government would be shipped into an of shore account with no tax and kept as a retirement policy. Just think how many businesses is supported by farmers and all the ppl they employ and companys that they in turn support all of which pays tax at every stage. It all ends up back in the governments pockets down the line

And also to feed the masses cheap food by the back door .

 

[it's not over]

How do you know how many points you have for the machinery grant I dont want to drive to the bank to get them to sign a letter about finances only to find out I haven't enough points and waste my f%&#$%g time as it is precious and I've spent enough f%$@@&g time filling out the form when I should of been milking. Band 2 item

 

[idgni]

How do you know how many points you have for the machinery grant I dont want to drive to the bank to get them to sign a letter about finances only to find out I haven't enough points and waste my f%&#$%g time as it is precious and I've spent enough f%$@@&g time filling out the form when I should of been milking. Band 2 item

depends on several things
what age you are, have you got grant before, got qualifications ?, how much discount on grant price are you applying.
page 24 on this link shows the points

https://www.daera-ni.gov.uk/sites/default/files/publications/daera/Guidance%20Documentation%201%20-%20FBIS%20C%20Tier%201%20Tranche%203%20Explanatory%20Booklet%202..._0.pdf

 

[Stuart1]

How do you know how many points you have for the machinery grant I dont want to drive to the bank to get them to sign a letter about finances only to find out I haven't enough points and waste my f%&#$%g time as it is precious and I've spent enough f%$@@&g time filling out the form when I should of been milking. Band 2 item

You’ll need to wash your mouth out tonight Z[emoji23]

 

[yin ewe]

How do you know how many points you have for the machinery grant I dont want to drive to the bank to get them to sign a letter about finances only to find out I haven't enough points and waste my f%&#$%g time as it is precious and I've spent enough f%$@@&g time filling out the form when I should of been milking. Band 2 item

Keep with the times man and email it to them, sent mine on Friday, returned on Monday, form completed and submitted last night. All from the comfort of the big chair in front of the fire.

 

[it's not over]

Looks like I could get 84 points if I go for full disco which is stupid. Either offer a grant or dont. I'm getting to the point they can stick it up their a#$%

 

[The Agrarian]

I think it's an absolutely ludicrous system. If they are offering a grant on equipment which will help farms comply with coming changes to environmental regulations, then it should be transparent and open equally to all who apply. Its quite beyond belief that a department of the state is offering a grant to meet one of their new regulations, but discriminating on the basis of age, time in the industry, and educational background. I'm shocked that the Farmers Union lawyers haven't had a field day with that one. Surely it's just asking for a case to be taken?

 

[Davy]

Looks good in the headlines saying a 40% grant. Though by the time you account for the fact that a lot of the listed items have inflated beyond the guide price, that I assume was set years ago. Then discount your grant amount in the Value For Money section, which is optional but well known that if you don't, you stand zero chance of approval, you end up a heck of a lot less than the headlines suggest.

 

[yin ewe]

Grants nearly always end up going direct to the manufacturer/dealer, same way as sfp ends up with the land owner.

 

[yin ewe]

Looks like I could get 84 points if I go for full disco which is stupid. Either offer a grant or dont. I'm getting to the point they can stick it up their a#$%

What's the full discount? I discounted by about 5% but I didn't check my points total. Put in for a tanker and trailing shoe which are both band 1, but we're well below 200 LUs so will work away with the spread plate until I have to change if I don't get the grant.

 

[it's not over]

I hope some of you kids out there know that if you take 20% off 40% ie 40%-20% the answer is not 20% but 32%. So what's the point of a headline grant of 40% when you cant f$%#&g get 40 but only 32%. Confused or what

 

[Mouser]

What's the full discount? I discounted by about 5% but I didn't check my points total. Put in for a tanker and trailing shoe which are both band 1, but we're well below 200 LUs so will work away with the spread plate until I have to change if I don't get the grant.

What's the livestock unit calculation? Not just a headage presumably.

 

[yin ewe]

What's the livestock unit calculation? Not just a headage presumably.

Not sure of the exact calculations, milk cows are 1lu, young stock less on a sliding scale according to age.

 

[The Agrarian]

Anyone know if there's a handy total for DA/LL without manually adding up the areas?

 

[nivilla1982]

The local BDG had an online meeting last evening, one of the topics was changes to Nitrates etc.
Milk cows which were 91 kg of N under the old system are now 100 KG of N in the new measurement system.
If you have over 200 livestock units, Low emission slurry spreading has to be used so no splash plate etc.

 

[Aircooled]

What's the livestock unit calculation? Not just a headage presumably.

150 cows and followers pretty much max for a spread plate man.

 

[lazy farmer]

You guys any idea yet where your milk will be processed on jan 1st ?