Danllan
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The Ford was trying too much too quickly, as half of the US Naval Chiefs made clear; I'm not advocating that anyway, the earlier systems have proven far better than anything else.
not one but two main aircraft carriers can not get out of port
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Why should the UK invest in an obsolete design, apart form the fact the RN couldn't crew them.
Pieces_of_Eight
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HMS QE due for a re-fit next year anyway, with talk of including a UAV launching capability.
Danllan
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The RN can and will afford and crew what it has to, it's having a government that understands strategic necessity to make it happen that's the hard thing.
ollie989898
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You won't ever launch any vessel built by anyone that doesn't have some teething issues. I know people who operate/captain no expense spared vessels that were a nightmare from new.
Danllan
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Anyway, the future viability of nearly all capital ships, and smaller ones, for anything other than very stand-off operations is now in serious doubt, following Ukraine's efforts in the Black Sea.
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Project Ark Royal – Plans for angled decks and drones
As part of Project Ark Royal, significant upgrades to the Queen Elizabeth-class aircraft carriers would be undertaken.
ukdefencejournal.org.uk
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They maybe able to get bodies but not the expertise needed. The USN has the same problem, every time the Gerald R Ford puts to sea the USN has to find the money for over 300 specialist technical contractors at eyewatering day rates. The UK government was taking about appropriating UK specialists into the RNR so they could paid less by cutting their companies out of any contract.The RN can and will afford and crew what it has to, it's having a government that understands strategic necessity to make it happen that's the hard thing.
Pieces_of_Eight
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Isn't one of the RFA ships due to be mothballed/retired early due to insufficient crew?
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HMS Bulwark the Assault Ship (LPD) apparently cannot be crewed after she completes her refit.
Danllan
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Makes sense, nationally important resource - the US president has a mechanism for doing that too.
Swarfmonkey
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Project Ark Royal – Plans for angled decks and drones
As part of Project Ark Royal, significant upgrades to the Queen Elizabeth-class aircraft carriers would be undertaken.
They should have been angled flight deck, cat and trap designs from the get go. Right. From. The. f**king. Start.
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Lack of naval resources means 'we have handed the keys of the country over to the drug cartels'
Former senior garda said Colombian cartels 'know well' the capacity of the Irish navy
www.irishexaminer.com
Danllan
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Now you know he gets uncomfortable when facts are brought into a discussion...Lack of naval resources means 'we have handed the keys of the country over to the drug cartels'
Former senior garda said Colombian cartels 'know well' the capacity of the Irish navy
Ah, bless you. Point of difference conveniently ignored by you, is we have absolutely no illusions that we are or want to be a “global power”!Now you know he gets uncomfortable when facts are brought into a discussion...
Did you know that America was found by an Irishman. That story about Christopher Columbus was the very first installment of MSM fake news.
Did St. Brendan arrive in America before Christopher Columbus?
Did Irish monk St. Brendan set foot on American soil 900 years before Christopher Columbus set sail?
www.irishcentral.com
Danllan
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You do continue with the delusion - once shrugged off, but now back again - that the ROI can be a sovereign state within the EU... so not much else will surprise me.Ah, bless you. Point of difference conveniently ignored by you, is we have absolutely no illusions that we are or want to be a “global power”!
Did you know that America was found by an Irishman. That story about Christopher Columbus was the very first installment of MSM fake news.
Did St. Brendan arrive in America before Christopher Columbus?
Did Irish monk St. Brendan set foot on American soil 900 years before Christopher Columbus set sail?www.irishcentral.com
Oh FFS, get over your faux sovereignty argument!
Read my next comment s-l-o-w-l-e-y, so it sinks in!
The Irish people, made a sovereign decision, to pool some aspects of sovereignty with our EU counterparts, for the common and greater good of the country going forward, and in the social and economic interests of our future generations.
Our backward neighbours, on the other hand, decided in 2016, to navel gaze and look inwards, in a fit of post empire collapse pique. In the process, they consigned the country and its future subjects, to a social and economic backwater. Never in the history of human endeavour have so many, deliberatley and knowingly, consigned their grandchildren to poorer life than they themselves had benefitted from. Mass hysteria. Mass pique. Mass selfishness. Mass stupidity. PTECS. Post traumatic empire collapse syndrome. There is no known cure. The prognosis is one of slow steady decline, manifesting initially in an apparent collective mental incapacitation of the body politic, aligned with rising national debt and rapidly increasing international relevance.
Danllan
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Tut tut, as you admitted after a couple of years of trying to lie your way around it, and after I adduced evidence from your EC, ECJ and treaties... the EU is sovereign. You were cornered, and finally admitted that to be the case. Having had some time to convince yourself that never happened, you are now back to lying about it, rather badly.
Just as you lie about the UK all the time, and about the EU's supporting the breaking of its own law, and the ROI being complicit in it. And about the imperial histories of your EU masters and fellow minions. You just keep on lying... but don't worry, I've cured it before and your salvation is at hand.