Nuts up or down

[milkloss]

Yes, typical standard for them I’m afraid, it’s ok if it looks pretty. Now have Class green on a MF combine [emoji849][emoji23][emoji23]

 

[Adeptandy]

One thing I have learnt since my 2 sons have come home is, is my way the right and only way.

Before questioning why something has been done differently to the way I have always done it I ask myself a few questions: Will it work like that - Is it really wrong - Does it matter - Is it worth an argument about it - Do I want to discourage their progressive thinking.

Believe it or not, I'm very proud to say that we never have a cross word and it is a pleasure to work alongside them

So my advice is, does it really matter which way the bl00dy bolts face. The guy looks to have done a very tidy job and a pat on the back and a word of grateful thanks should be the Monday morning brief.

You haven't seen it in the flesh, the knife back is now twisted and bent, looks like it will be take all the fingers off to put the knife in as its so distorted there's no way it will slide in imho.

I'm not looking for a fight, but bear in mind, I'll be the one getting covered in dust changing it while he sits in the air con tractor. Its easy and clean to pop off to nuts on top opposed to punching 2 bolts out from underneath i would have thought

 

[PSQ]

So before I show my frustration Monday, who’s right ?

It’s going to be a long campaign, show a bit of leadership and don’t go looking for a fight before it starts. Take the mickey by all means, but keep your team working together at all cost.

 

[Adeptandy]

It’s going to be a long campaign, show a bit of leadership and don’t go looking for a fight before it starts. Take the mickey by all means, but keep your team working together at all cost.

I'm not an all guns blazing type, but also don't suffer fools
I'll explain why I asked for it to be done a certain way and then offer the option of redo it, or you change the sections when they break

 

[deere150]

So, what’s the collective TFF view on this one.
Already had a brief exchange of views, but don’t want to upset a partnership, but as the combine driver and co owner I think I should have final say.
So here we go

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This is my preferred way of using the nut n bolt way of securing knife sections.

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Arrived at the combine yesterday to be greeted by this.

Wasn’t impressed as I’d left instructions on how I’d wanted it done.

So before I show my frustration Monday, who’s right ?

If you want a job doing right, do it yourself ‍

 

[Jon]

On my Claas, nuts on top for ease of changing a broken section.
Also the bolts have a serrated friction fit, that squeeze tight into the knife back, would be a pain changing a section if bolt stuck in section.

 

[Nearly]

You haven't seen it in the flesh, the knife back is now twisted and bent, looks like it will be take all the fingers off to put the knife in as its so distorted there's no way it will slide in imho.

I'm not looking for a fight, but bear in mind, I'll be the one getting covered in dust changing it while he sits in the air con tractor. Its easy and clean to pop off to nuts on top opposed to punching 2 bolts out from underneath i would have thought

So ask them to put the knife in on Monday.
Then explain why you wanted it doing the 'right' way.

 

[Adeptandy]

On my Claas, nuts on top for ease of changing a broken section.
Also the bolts have a serrated friction fit, that squeeze tight into the knife back, would be a pain changing a section if bolt stuck in section.

These are Class bolts and sections

 

[Tim G]

Reading between the lines a bit (and I could be well out) but it seems like there are other frustrations coming to the surface here, and the lack of sleep won't help.
Part of me thinks leave it until you're in a better frame of mind, but the other part of me thinks don't leave it and let things blow up in the middle of harvest.

 

[Adeptandy]

Reading between the lines a bit (and I could be well out) but it seems like there are other frustrations coming to the surface here, and the lack of sleep won't help.
Part of me thinks leave it until you're in a better frame of mind, but the other part of me thinks don't leave it and let things blow up in the middle of harvest.

There have been frustrations in the past and unfortunately they keep coming, been quiet and took it all in my stride, but beginning to think we need a line in the sand, surely experience should count for something

 

[Dead Rabbits]

So, what’s the collective TFF view on this one.
Already had a brief exchange of views, but don’t want to upset a partnership, but as the combine driver and co owner I think I should have final say.
So here we go

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This is my preferred way of using the nut n bolt way of securing knife sections.

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Arrived at the combine yesterday to be greeted by this.

Wasn’t impressed as I’d left instructions on how I’d wanted it done.

So before I show my frustration Monday, who’s right ?

Got any rock? I’d be putting the person who did it in the combine if I had to replace a box of sections every day due to breaking.

 

[Adeptandy]

Got any rock? I’d be putting the person who did it in the combine if I had to replace a box of sections every day due to breaking.

I've seen his combine driving, was very good at bunging up a TF78 so not letting him near this one

 

[Pond digger]

my understanding it bolt in from top where possibly then if nut drops off theres a chance you could spot the lose bolt before losing blade, could be wrong though, i would have gone bolt in top regardless.

This^^. There’s also less chance of a loose nut being swallowed.

 

[Pond digger]

There have been frustrations in the past and unfortunately they keep coming, been quiet and took it all in my stride, but beginning to think we need a line in the sand, surely experience should count for something

I think the point is that you told him how you wanted it doing, and he did the opposite. You’re paying him to do as instructed. However, as others have said, best not to fall out just before harvest! So, go gentle.

 

[quattro]

Sounds like they need you more than you need them

 

[Ffermer Bach]

It has to be nuts up on a massey as the bolt is spined to fit in the knife bar and has a "thin " bolt head

years and years since I replaced a knife section, but we always riveted them, is that only on Claas?

 

[Steevo]

years and years since I replaced a knife section, but we always riveted them, is that only on Claas?

I think all headers used to be riveted.....then some genius decided that new fangled nut and bolt technology used elsewhere on the machine could be applied in this scenario too.

 

[Mursal]

Will it really matter up or down, but I'd go nuts on the bottom as a general rule.
Best get him in the long grass, not the short, so choose your time.

 

[Adeptandy]

Will it really matter up or down, but I'd go nuts on the bottom as a general rule.
Best get him in the long grass, not the short, so choose your time.

Afraid it does to me, as I'm the one on the combine

 

[Adeptandy]

I think all headers used to be riveted.....then some genius decided that new fangled nut and bolt technology used elsewhere on the machine could be applied in this scenario too.

They did, and this one is, hence I planned the change when replacing all the sections ready for harvest as the Class nut n bolt system is far superior...............if the nuts are on the top