Oregon shutting down small farms

Bogweevil

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It will hit us all in the WE at least - drought due to climate change, increasing domestic consumption, priority for non-agricultural users, less snow pack - OK that is Oregon we don't have snow pack.

However unless we change our wasteful ways we will.run.out of water in the SE before 2050
 

Bury the Trash

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Mixed Farmer
It will hit us all in the WE at least - drought due to climate change, increasing domestic consumption, priority for non-agricultural users, less snow pack - OK that is Oregon we don't have snow pack.

However unless we change our wasteful ways we will.run.out of water in the SE before 2050
Even the wetter West will be like that if more water storage isn't built, irony is we have / have had huge rainfall for about 7 months now and big part of it is gone back out to sea
Couple more days af least needed but maybe better to have more and smaller loca,ised ones.
 
Agree with moving the function of government & civil service away from those who are currently doing it - the none sense being created in London is ridiculous.

Needs some kind of trial on how to select working people who would produce policy to best push the UK forward - current set of political activists are mental & should be banned from ever being an MP.

We need ordinary working people running businesses & families running the UK - those that show long term efficiency & skill should be advocated for the Civil Service. HoL ? Not sure as it used to be good but broken since the parties used it as a dumping ground for the chosen.
Working people don't have time to enter politics. Last farmer I'm aware of in HOC was found watching porn on his tablet.
As for the civil service what's going to attract all these high performers to leave their jobs and replace all the people that have been magically fired. Employment lawyers and unions will have something to say about it.

Personally I've survived every crisis I was told would be the end of us all and am to old to get wound up about it all anymore.
 

soapsud

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Dorset
The problem is, as it appears to me, is that there is no stopping the current collapse until we hit the ground. Five years, ten years, who knows, but there is a lot inertia built up so it will take a while. It will seem slow to those living through it but from an historical perspective it will look very quick. It will be the children of the coming 'winter' that will do the hard work of sorting things out. All generations are formed by the conditions of their youth. We all (mostly all) had it to easy and could never envisage or believe, when we were 20 - 30 how badly things could go.
The youngsters who got locked down and are addicted to screen time wont be politicised. It'll be the generation that comes after - 20 years after!
 

soapsud

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Dorset
Working people don't have time to enter politics. Last farmer I'm aware of in HOC was found watching porn on his tablet.
As for the civil service what's going to attract all these high performers to leave their jobs and replace all the people that have been magically fired. Employment lawyers and unions will have something to say about it.

Personally I've survived every crisis I was told would be the end of us all and am to old to get wound up about it all anymore.
We're all Thatcher's children. That means promoting rational self-interest and de-socialising community service.

The english used to like their aristocrats because their inherited wealth afforded them the time to devote a sense of duty for the nation, beyond us peasants push for grubby self-advancement. Thatcher-Blair me-me-me has turned that on its head.

Remember when Alan Clarke sneered at Michael Heseltine for buying his own furniture?


He had a natty turn of phrase but we don't want his sort in power again, do we?
 

fgc325j

Member
I think the opposite

I also am on record many times on here; halve the number of MPs or more, double their salary, prohibit outside interests other than professional volunteering , give a Senator type executive office to each to support their work, cut the massive holidays back to 4 weeks like the rest of us, holiday to be taken for electioneering / conferences

Move HoC to Birmingham or ideally Holyrood to shoot the SNP Fox . De-heat Southern England, turn current HoC in to the museum it really is

Cross party committees and governance to get long term strategy done and if not then plenty of pundits and experts will express an opinion and get them sacked pronto
It looks good on paper - BUT the senedd in Wales was set up so that the MP's worked normal hours, i.e no late afternoon starts/ late evening finishes like Westminster,
which made it more family friendly, and look at what a right shower it all is.
 

glasshouse

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Location
lothians
We're all Thatcher's children. That means promoting rational self-interest and de-socialising community service.

The english used to like their aristocrats because their inherited wealth afforded them the time to devote a sense of duty for the nation, beyond us peasants push for grubby self-advancement. Thatcher-Blair me-me-me has turned that on its head.

Remember when Alan Clarke sneered at Michael Heseltine for buying his own furniture?


He had a natty turn of phrase but we don't want his sort in power again, do we?
Blair and thatcher have made the aristocrats super wealthy again.
They dont need to go into politics to earn a crust,
Lots of farmers used to go into politics, as they had plenty men at home to do the work, not any more,
 
Here is your answer folks.

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