OSR Drilling 2019

nick...

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
south norfolk
I'm literally down the road from @E_B and running a Claydon on some heavy land (and growing rape), you are welcome to drop by here too.
That would be great thank you.coukd have a busy end of month.i may well know who you you both are but no clues on your forum names.ill pm you later in the month.thanks again
Nick...
 

robbie

Member
BASIS
Drilled my rape today.
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This field had a far bit of brome so I ploughed it, which I didn't want to do as its always loose but I rolled twice which will help.
Fss elgar. I don't know what rate was. I didn't calibrate the drill just set it to what the book said It needs to be on for about 5kg/ha. Fingers crossed I miss the plague of CSFB but my oil radish up the road has been shot holed by the little gits.

After the nice little rain we had lastnight I may well bung another field in but ive got to get it mucked and ploughed first and I've got the joys of a rpa inspection tomorrow so I can't see me doing much.[emoji35]
 

Zippy768

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Dorset/Wilts
Finished drilling ours yesterday. I think the dustiest and dryish I have ever drilled into. Plumes of dust from the drill and the rollers went around in a cloud of it. Was a little worried but was forecast rain overnight, which was delivered. Nice and moist in the ground now - even put some stubble turnips in this avo
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
My 6210r with my new osr drill ( 7.2 m 18 coulters very similar to you avatar coulters) is working out at 3.1L /HA so your fendt is doing really well to get those figures pulling 12+ m drill .

To be fair its working very shallow on flat, easy, dry land with fairly empty hoppers, I suspect we may be in a best case senario right now but would be disappointed it if wasn't more efficient than a 6m drill behind the same power unit
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Just to chuck a spanner in the works,how will these direct drills work in a very wet autumn.with a wet surface traction will be extremely poor and result in lots of wheel slip.plough and combination drill is pretty much weather proof.has anyone direct drilled in the very wet conditions that may or may not come.id imagine stripdrills may be worse having been looking at them in the last few days,online,requiring 200hp on even the 3m versions.
Nick...

I find zerotill more weather safe that tillage - it has limits of course but we survived 2012 relatively unscathed for example !

plough combo is also weather safe if you are ploughing fresh and dry ahead of the combo - in 2012 it failed many locally though as even what they ploughed up was wet and as well as failed crops a lot of soil damage was done trying to complete such heavy draft operations on wet soil

min till a nightmare in a wet time though - worst of both worlds
 

Shutesy

Moderator
Arable Farmer
Just to chuck a spanner in the works,how will these direct drills work in a very wet autumn.with a wet surface traction will be extremely poor and result in lots of wheel slip.plough and combination drill is pretty much weather proof.has anyone direct drilled in the very wet conditions that may or may not come.id imagine stripdrills may be worse having been looking at them in the last few days,online,requiring 200hp on even the 3m versions.
Nick...
Not all 3m strip till drills need 200hp! If its that shockingly wet an autumn continuously from 25th Sept to the end of November I doubt much would be drilled whatever establishment system in which case there would likely be an abundance of spring crops that year. Bit like 2012. Just because you can maul something in with a combi drill doesn't mean you should be....
 

Tompkins

Member
Location
NE Somerset
Planted 150 out of a planned 350 acres, all FSS at 6kg/ha which is about 130 seeds/m2.
Going back combining today then try and get the rest in although it will probably be more like 280 acres now as times getting on.
When do people feel is the cut off for planting OSR? It would be FS Campus which I'm told of the quickest establishing conventional variety?
 

JCfarmer

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
warks
Got a 100 acres left, will have 50 to do after today. Digestate being applied day or so before before drilling. Drilled with new to me 3m Claydon SR, going in reasonably well. The heavy land is creating a slot in places, seed dropped either side. All heavy land is rolled with the carrier at a slight angle and then rolled with normal rolls. FFS on majority 6.5kg/ha on heavy land.
We'll see and we'll see in the spring if its being eaten alive still!
 

Devon James

Member
Location
Devon
Planted 150 out of a planned 350 acres, all FSS at 6kg/ha which is about 130 seeds/m2.
Going back combining today then try and get the rest in although it will probably be more like 280 acres now as times getting on.
When do people feel is the cut off for planting OSR? It would be FS Campus which I'm told of the quickest establishing conventional variety?
I'm up at Taunton at the weekend if you want a hand to get some in
 

Against_the_grain

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
S.E
An unexpected 4.5mm here yesterday but it has dissapeared already. Havent drilled any of the 80Ha yet. Maybe another 4mm due on Monday night but looks dry after that. Some will be DD some from the back of a cultivator. If we dont go this weekend in anticipation of the rain on Monday we may have to wait another 10days+ to plant which will be 16thSeptember....(too late?) If we do plant it this weekend and only get 2mm it wont be enough to get a crop established and we will have written off the seed cost.....decisions decisions....farming I guess!
 

Adeptandy

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
PE15
Had a quick walk today, light disc and then Freeflow drilled looking ok, Freeflow DD into stubble will be disc and redrilled with the Freeflow towards the end of the month by the looks of it :unsure:

Looks like it was the year to disturb the soil first. I also think I may have drilled it to deep direct.

The questin now is wether to persist with a shallower DD on S Barley stubble with the straw removed or go first with the disc's and risk moisture loss but get it rolled better :eek:
 

Renaultman

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Darlington
I find zerotill more weather safe that tillage - it has limits of course but we survived 2012 relatively unscathed for example !

plough combo is also weather safe if you are ploughing fresh and dry ahead of the combo - in 2012 it failed many locally though as even what they ploughed up was wet and as well as failed crops a lot of soil damage was done trying to complete such heavy draft operations on wet soil

min till a nightmare in a wet time though - worst of both worlds
I think you have to use min till like your plough combi example in weather extremes. The trick is knowing when we are going to get one, and getting a chit without too much cultivation.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Does drilling provide any advantage over broadcasting other than getting depth for preem or complying with requirement to drill if seed is treated?

Is broadcast and roll sufficient or even better? Or is the danger that it can chit then dry out?
 

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