OSR Drilling 2019

Zippy768

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Dorset/Wilts
Your yield this year were certainly better than mine. I haven't had the weights back from United Oilseeds yet but my rough estimate of an average of 2.5 t/ha was certainly trounced by yours. Perhaps I should pay even more attention to your methods!

This is why I use such low seed rates:

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AHDB OSR Manual https://cereals.ahdb.org.uk/media/305093/g55-oilseed-rape-guide-jan-2014-update.pdf

Oh crikey dont start following anything I do, there generally isnt any methodical thinking over much we do!

Thanks for the explanation (y)
 

HarryB97

Member
Mixed Farmer
few reasons really !

one was to make them more (student) friendly when drilling covers etc - the double articulated seed / liqiud fert cart is a bit of a handful that needs a very skilled operator, With it dropped off out the way the tool bar is like a simple drag cultivator and visibly great

second reason was when using the seed / fert cart to add a extra product so we can do 2 seeds and fert like the new Avatar can

and finally it was a wet weather hedge - if we get another 2012 type season the well balanced, light weight unit on a well tyred tractor should go in most conditions when other drills would be stopped - this may also be useful for winter bean drilling - I did start a thread that I must update
Very nice need a thread following all these projects you have had on recently!
 

nick...

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
south norfolk
Just to chuck a spanner in the works,how will these direct drills work in a very wet autumn.with a wet surface traction will be extremely poor and result in lots of wheel slip.plough and combination drill is pretty much weather proof.has anyone direct drilled in the very wet conditions that may or may not come.id imagine stripdrills may be worse having been looking at them in the last few days,online,requiring 200hp on even the 3m versions.
Nick...
 

Oscar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Got contractor here now doing my OSR, DTS plus 100 ltrs 26N 5%S liquid /ha via drill. Going in lovely.

@ nick.. I m sure @Clive mentioned in a thread recently that he has a wet weather drill now with his Co6 minus the seed/feet cart but with a front hopper ?
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Finished drilling late last night. Sprinkled in front of roller in stubble cultivator. Went very well on mostly light land. Too lumpy on the heavy land and does not bode well for slugs, beetles and establishment but it's a smallish heavy area. 4.5 kg per ha 100 /m2. Old stocks turbo jet wizard proved highly accurate (as long as I keep the lid tight). A joy to set up and use after years battling with the metering on conventional seed drills
 

nick...

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
south norfolk
Got contractor here now doing my OSR, DTS plus 100 ltrs 26N 5%S liquid /ha via drill. Going in lovely.

@ nick.. I m sure @Clive mentioned in a thread recently that he has a wet weather drill now with his Co6 minus the seed/feet cart but with a front hopper ?
I was not specificity reffering to @Clive but anyone especially on heavy land
Nick...
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Just to chuck a spanner in the works,how will these direct drills work in a very wet autumn.with a wet surface traction will be extremely poor and result in lots of wheel slip.plough and combination drill is pretty much weather proof.has anyone direct drilled in the very wet conditions that may or may not come.id imagine stripdrills may be worse having been looking at them in the last few days,online,requiring 200hp on even the 3m versions.
Nick...

light land is always easy. Goes any time with any method. It's the heavy stuff that gives me a headache. Direct disc drill and you cut a hard slot which fills with water or turns into a slug motorway. Use a tine aggressively and you can bring up too many clods or need mega horsepower, or it won't cut in and just scrapes the surface.

I am coming to the conclusion that very low disturbance legs with a following disc drill coulter are the way forward in heavy land. That way you don't bring up cack, or create an open cloddy surface. You need a shattered but level surface in which to drill, with the trash cleared from in front of the seeding unit.

I have messed about with paraplows and disc drills but one day I will build the holy grail. A direct drill that copes with sand and clay, wet or dry, covered in heaps of badly chopped straw.(y) And will drill anything from clover to field beans and can be pulled by a MF135..... Well something like that.
 

MrNoo

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Cirencester
Well, despite saying "I wouldnt" I am, seed ordered and will make a start this afternoon, going to bang it on behind the subdisc, if it comes it comes if it doesnt then so be it. Agro says some of his customers crops are ok, some a bit of damage, so will take a chance.
 

nick...

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
south norfolk
light land is always easy. Goes any time with any method. It's the heavy stuff that gives me a headache. Direct disc drill and you cut a hard slot which fills with water or turns into a slug motorway. Use a tine aggressively and you can bring up too many clods or need mega horsepower, or it won't cut in and just scrapes the surface.

I am coming to the conclusion that very low disturbance legs with a following disc drill coulter are the way forward in heavy land. That way you don't bring up cack, or create an open cloddy surface. You need a shattered but level surface in which to drill, with the trash cleared from in front of the seeding unit.

I have messed about with paraplows and disc drills but one day I will build the holy grail. A direct drill that copes with sand and clay, wet or dry, covered in heaps of badly chopped straw.(y) And will drill anything from clover to field beans and can be pulled by a MF135..... Well something like that.
I’m hoping to get a look at the weaving gd and Mzuri drills working this autumn.agronomist told me the weaving would not work on a lot of our land.
Nick...
 

E_B

Member
Location
Norfolk
I’m hoping to get a look at the weaving gd and Mzuri drills working this autumn.agronomist told me the weaving would not work on a lot of our land.
Nick...

Running a mzuri in South Norfolk and North Suffolk. Let me know if you want a look. Not growing rape though.
 

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