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- Shropshire
Are you buying some sheep?
Make them worse ime.looks like we are in for a warm dry week if the forecast is proved correct ,this will be good for us taking a grass cut but what if any effect will it likely have on the flea beetles in osr that is emerging ? im wondering wether to continue with a spray recommendation or hang fire
since I was a lad never seen the blighters till I started drawing my state pension !!Since I was a lad flea beetles were always worse in dry spells. Derris dust was the go to solution in the garden but even then with slow growth in a dry spell which favoured the beetles it was touch and go. It’s just one of those years … again.
Sadly the N needs rain as much as the osron the basis that prevention is better than a cure having just rung our agronomist and having had a response from the sages on here its going on, ho ho along with a bag of n shortly
Out of interest how have you all established your Osr. I think Clive, you use an Avatar.
Mine has all been established using a shallow pass with a cultipress or express followed by drilling with a Sabre tine.
These have all established pretty well and are at 2 and 3 leaf stage.
On the same day I had one field direct drilled with an Avatar and I am pretty disappointed with it. Some is fine but a lot is probably a re drill. In the the same field I drilled 24m direct with my Sabre Tine and this has come much better and the plants are more advanced than the Avatar drilled area.
Slug pressure is quite high and loads of snails coming onto the headlands.
Out of interest how have you all established your Osr. I think Clive, you use an Avatar.
Mine has all been established using a shallow pass with a cultipress or express followed by drilling with a Sabre tine.
These have all established pretty well and are at 2 and 3 leaf stage.
On the same day I had one field direct drilled with an Avatar and I am pretty disappointed with it. Some is fine but a lot is probably a re drill. In the the same field I drilled 24m direct with my Sabre Tine and this has come much better and the plants are more advanced than the Avatar drilled area.
Slug pressure is quite high and loads of snails coming onto the headlands.
Is your labour free?osr was looking good Friday, like full row
………re drilling 80ac today the rest is ok but certainly under significant CSFB pressure
thankfully just 10kgs of fss and a bit of fuel lost, its early enough to give it another role of the dIce
Is your labour free?
Do your tractors not need service or repair? My servicing costs can be £3-4 hr using main stealer.
Tyres?
Drill wearing parts?
Etc etc
Would you do my drilling for me for just the fuel cost?
All my zero tilled (with Sky drill) osr has failed, only cultivated area has survived. Can only assume high slug pressure due to wet summer, with cultivations having the affect of reducing numbers? Still can't find many slugs though, and are very rarely a problem here. Usually the opposite, zero tilled stuff getting away best but we have been used to a run of super dry summers where moisture retention has been key. Just finishing re-drilling here, all with a pass with a carrier before hand and slug pellets down the spout. Fortunately plenty of farmed saved seed. Quite a few csfb landing on the windscreen so that is the next concern...Out of interest how have you all established your Osr. I think Clive, you use an Avatar.
Mine has all been established using a shallow pass with a cultipress or express followed by drilling with a Sabre tine.
These have all established pretty well and are at 2 and 3 leaf stage.
On the same day I had one field direct drilled with an Avatar and I am pretty disappointed with it. Some is fine but a lot is probably a re drill. In the the same field I drilled 24m direct with my Sabre Tine and this has come much better and the plants are more advanced than the Avatar drilled area.
Slug pressure is quite high and loads of snails coming onto the headlands.
All my zero tilled (with Sky drill) osr has failed, only cultivated area has survived. Can only assume high slug pressure due to wet summer, with cultivations having the affect of reducing numbers? Still can't find many slugs though, and are very rarely a problem here. Usually the opposite, zero tilled stuff getting away best but we have been used to a run of super dry summers where moisture retention has been key. Just finishing re-drilling here, all with a pass with a carrier before hand and slug pellets down the spout. Fortunately plenty of farmed saved seed. Quite a few csfb landing on the windscreen so that is the next concern...
Oh how I would love to be able to drill 20k acres without changing metal.labour is on a salary so being paid today anyway - no extra cost there
tractor fixed cost covered so no extra cost there but correct - extra servicing and fuel / wear metal will be incurred, circa 3 or 4 hours worth
fuel is 3-4l/ ha
metal is almost so small cost i can’t work it out, drill does over 20k acres on a set of discs that cost <£50 each
it’s 4 hrs work max to do 80ac
so yes there is cost but it’s VERY low vs deep cultivation and new hybrid seed etc - low enough to role the dice again on this lottery crop
i will do your drilling for free yes ………. if like the crop we are re drilling today i get to keep and sell the output ?
Haven't drilled ours yet. Agronomist reckons best leaving it at moment, just to get this hot spell gone before it's emerged. Only issue is moisture will start to disappear with next weeks rain gone off the forecast.looks like we are in for a warm dry week if the forecast is proved correct ,this will be good for us taking a grass cut but what if any effect will it likely have on the flea beetles in osr that is emerging ? im wondering wether to continue with a spray recommendation or hang fire