Planning Applications, PD and the like (General Chat)

[Pond digger]

Would a garden retaining wall require planning permission? It is in a conservation area, but out of sight.

 

[George from SJM Planning]

Would a garden retaining wall require planning permission? It is in a conservation area, but out of sight.

In a conservation area it would. Realistically though, depends on the size.

 

[Pond digger]

In a conservation area it would. Realistically though, depends on the size.

Many thanks.

 

[Chainsawwill]

Question on class q. I’m looking at a open fronted barn that has been already been approved to be converted from a cow shed into a three bedroom house. I’m looking at buying the property. No work has taken place yet. my question is- does the whole of the barn need to be converted or could I say just convert half or a third and use the other part as a garage and a workshop and leave open fronted. I don’t need a spiralling three bed home. A small 2 bed is plenty big enough for me. I’d rather have a big open workshop.

 

[George from SJM Planning]

Question on class q. I’m looking at a open fronted barn that has been already been approved to be converted from a cow shed into a three bedroom house. I’m looking at buying the property. No work has taken place yet. my question is- does the whole of the barn need to be converted or could I say just convert half or a third and use the other part as a garage and a workshop and leave open fronted. I don’t need a spiralling three bed home. A small 2 bed is plenty big enough for me. I’d rather have a big open workshop.

Unfortunately it would be "not in accordance of the approved plans".
How long does the Class Q have left to run? My suggestion would be to get some amended plans done and reapply for the class q.

 

[Chainsawwill]

Unfortunately it would be "not in accordance of the approved plans".
How long does the Class Q have left to run? My suggestion would be to get some amended plans done and reapply for the class q.

The class q was approved in July this year So plenty of time to run still. is it possible to only convert some of the structure. I heard a while ago that the whole of the building had to be used if converting to residential and you couldn’t have a third residential and two thirds workshop/garage?

 

[George from SJM Planning]

The class q was approved in July this year So plenty of time to run still. is it possible to only convert some of the structure. I heard a while ago that the whole of the building had to be used if converting to residential and you couldn’t have a third residential and two thirds workshop/garage?

I believe that partial conversion is allowed under class q. I suppose the question that would need to be clarified is the use class of the remaining part, would it still be agricultural.
If you would like to email me [email protected] I will take a look at the GPDO when I am in the office tomorrow.

 

[Matt77]

Any chance you’d know how long after we’d paid the planning payment we should expect to see it on the planning website? It’s rother council.

 

[George from SJM Planning]

Any chance you’d know how long after we’d paid the planning payment we should expect to see it on the planning website? It’s rother council.

Haven't had an application with Rother for a while but if they are like any other council then up to a couple of weeks. It won't be put online until it has been validated and they are all desperately short of admin staff. If over a week I would call or email them for a timescale. But if the application is deemed valid then the application will be backdated to the date you paid.

 

[Matt77]

Haven't had an application with Rother for a while but if they are like any other council then up to a couple of weeks. It won't be put online until it has been validated and they are all desperately short of admin staff. If over a week I would call or email them for a timescale. But if the application is deemed valid then the application will be backdated to the date you paid.

Thanks you, it’s been a month.

 

[George from SJM Planning]

Thanks you, it’s been a month.

I would definitely get in touch. If it is a standard 8 week application they won't have long left to determine it!

 

[Matt77]

I would definitely get in touch. If it is a standard 8 week application they won't have long left to determine it!

Many thanks for the info, merry Christmas to you.

 

[Kidds]

The class q was approved in July this year So plenty of time to run still.

Maybe you know this but class Q has to be completed within 3 years of grant, rather than the usual started within 3 years. Catches some out.

 

[Manney]

@George from SJM Planning how much weight do objections from neighbours carry in decision process. I've had 3 strong objections from neighbours but most of it being non material objections.

We've gone for conversion of agri building. We couldn't go down the class q route as we are in an aonb. We use the building to store machinery. It sits in front of a once farm house and to the side of 3 barn conversions (developed in 05). What are the chances of getting planning given the strong objections? Also the building has some cracks in the block walls. We are having a structural report done in the new year. What do I need to report to say to increase my chances of gaining planning consent?

 

[George from SJM Planning]

@George from SJM Planning how much weight do objections from neighbours carry in decision process. I've had 3 strong objections from neighbours but most of it being non material objections.

We've gone for conversion of agri building. We couldn't go down the class q route as we are in an aonb. We use the building to store machinery. It sits in front of a once farm house and to the side of 3 barn conversions (developed in 05). What are the chances of getting planning given the strong objections?

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If their objections are not supported by planning policy then the case officer won't pay any attention. It might be worth dropping the case officer an email asking if they share the concerns and whether they want you to respond.

 

[Manney]

If their objections are not supported by planning policy then the case officer won't pay any attention. It might be worth dropping the case officer an email asking if they share the concerns and whether they want you to respond.

Thanks for your comments George.

From the pictures do you think the building is suitable for conversion or am I being ambitious!? It has a foot print of approx 80 square meters and is approx 5 m high. Plans are for 2 bedrooms on ground floor and open plan living above.

 

[George from SJM Planning]

Thanks for your comments George.

From the pictures do you think the building is suitable for conversion or am I being ambitious!? It has a foot print of approx 80 square meters and is approx 5 m high. Plans are for 2 bedrooms on ground floor and open plan living above.

To be honest being in an ANOB is always going to give you more hurdles to overcome. Did you do a pre-app with the council? In design terms I think it is a good use of the building but unless your council has a agricultural to residential supporting policy it will be against national policy and without the fallback of Class Q it could be a struggle.

 

[Nearly]

Thanks for your comments George.

From the pictures do you think the building is suitable for conversion or am I being ambitious!? It has a foot print of approx 80 square meters and is approx 5 m high. Plans are for 2 bedrooms on ground floor and open plan living above.

As a peasant I think I'd rebuild the top half of the building with a more conventional roofline, dispose of the asbestos and then apply next year.
You'll have to remove the asbestos anyway and a conventional roof will give more space upstairs and be a cheaper build than that hexagon shape.

 

[Forever Fendt]

The planners around here would not allow the conversion as I think they would say the building due to its design would be a rebuild and not a conversion,But don't take any notice of me that's just my opinion based on what has happened around here luck will need to be on your side

 

[Manney]

Yes I was thinking along the same lines. Planning has been submitted and I almost expect it to be rejected but at least I can then work through the issues. Playing the long game!