Plant More Trees.

[DrWazzock]

Doing this will solve everything won't it?

Trees take CO2 out of the atmosphere and lock up and store carbon. They stabilise climates and soils and create habitats and amenity. And taking land out of agricultural production will help commodity prices.

Let's face it, a lot of arable land is burnt out, devoid of organic matter, so why bust a gut spending more and more on it to supply saturated markets for ever lower commodity prices.

A simple solution. Pay us a bit to do it and we will crack on. Maybe the £80 an acre BPS would be better spent on woodland than on overproducing commodities.

 

[britt]

I saw this promoted a few years ago, but to eat more food grown on trees, apples, nuts etc. Less or no cultivation cost, soil degradation etc.
What is the difference in carbon footprint between apples and potatoes.
We may need to develop different varieties for higher yield or better storage, but that's nothing new.
Maybe develop niche crops like quince to replace some veg. there must be something to replace cereals, pasta, rice etc.

 

[milkloss]

Doing this will solve everything won't it?

Trees take CO2 out of the atmosphere and lock up and store carbon. They stabilise climates and soils and create habitats and amenity. And taking land out of agricultural production will help commodity prices.

Let's face it, a lot of arable land is burnt out, devoid of organic matter, so why bust a gut spending more and more on it to supply saturated markets for ever lower commodity prices.

A simple solution. Pay us a bit to do it and we will crack on. Maybe the £80 an acre BPS would be better spent on woodland than on overproducing commodities.

Sound good to me but surely trees should only be paid for on marginal unprofitable ground.

I’m wondering what the long term future for trees is. Will it be legal to burn them in the future? Will the ground still be able to be returned to food production? Are trees as a carbon sink just delaying the inevitable such as real easing the carbon when burnt and when the ground is cleared for food production? They do after all keep telling us that food production needs to grow with world population (however much I think that is bulsh1te).

 

[Tarw Coch]

I have to chuckle at this idea of planting more trees to save the planet at the same time as the government is giving out subsidies for renewable heat and trees are being cut down at an unprecedented rate.

 

[DGreen]

Sound's like we need the spaghetti growing trees that they had in Italy back in the 70's.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Why plant trees on good lowland when there is thousands of acres of upland producing next to nothing. Is it true you cant plant on Peat ?

 

[Kidds]

They are removing a football pitch sized chunk of the rainforest every minute. Planting more trees is pissing in the wind.
We are completely doomed and have been for decades.

 

[M-J-G]

Why plant trees on good lowland when there is thousands of acres of upland producing next to nothing. Is it true you cant plant on Peat ?

Millions of trees are planted on peat.

 

[Dave6170]

Why plant trees on good lowland when there is thousands of acres of upland producing next to nothing. Is it true you cant plant on Peat ?

If the peat is over 50cm deep you cant plant trees in it. But you can dig a massive hole in peat, fill it with hardcore and concrete and stick a wind turbine on top of it.

 

[Dave6170]

Millions of trees are planted on peat.

But you are not allowed to any more

 

[Derrick Hughes]

But you are not allowed to any more

Sorry yes that's what I mean

Our poorest ground is peat over Blue Clay . But understand you cant get any Grant's for planting it

 

[Dave6170]

Sorry yes that's what I mean

Our poorest ground is peat over Blue Clay . But understand you cant get any Grant's for planting it

You could plant in the peat off your own back. No chance of getting any grants to do so though

 

[Tim W]

A simple solution. Pay us a bit to do it and we will crack on. Maybe the £80 an acre BPS would be better spent on woodland than on overproducing commodities.

Why should we pay you to do it?
If you can't make money with crops or grass then you will have to do something ---you'll prob. plant trees without us propping you up?

I have a landlord planting trees on good arable land as that's where he reckons the best long term investment is

 

[teslacoils]

If they paid me the carbon credits for sucking up the carbon, it would probably pay to plant anyway.

 

[Dry Rot]

The answer is an addictive form of contraception, like hard drugs.

Then with fewer people we will need less of everything and produce fewer waste products.

 

[Hesston4860s]

I only grow trees that my late father planted under Fwps, 1 of the schemes ends next year. After keeping the poxy things for 10 years with no payments, if I have my way the lot (20 acres) will be coming out !.

 

[teslacoils]

I only grow trees that my late father planted under Fwps, 1 of the schemes ends next year. After keeping the poxy things for 10 years with no payments, if I have my way the lot (20 acres) will be coming out !.

Let me know how that goes. I think you may be saddened to find youre stuck with them forever now.

 

[organicguy]

What a good idea, plant trees here on our damaged soils and burn the rainforest for our food!
I was told yesterday that if every farmer in the world increased their soil organic matter by 0.04% every year we can solve 2 problems in one go,

 

[DrWazzock]

I am speaking from experience of farming grade 3 arable. I remember a wood being cut down here to reveal 6 acres of blowaway sand. Produces a reasonable crop of cheap arable commodity every 10 years, the rest of the time it grows a poor crop of expensive rubbish. There was a reason some of this land went down to trees in the first place.

I am not suggesting we plant grade 1 silt with trees but there are many acres of poor marginal land that would suit trees very well. At one time I would felt embarrassed and defeatist to even suggest such as thing but now that carbon sequestration is in fashion and seemingly wanted, and while people are happy to seek cheap imported food from abroad then why not go with the flow for a change.

Do I have any desire to clear fell the neighbouring forestry plantation and plant it with wheat? I would have to be nuts on many levels to do that. Pointless waste of time, effort and money.

I like the idea of more orchards and nuts as well. Bring it on.

 

[Hesston4860s]

Let me know how that goes. I think you may be saddened to find youre stuck with them forever now.

We shall see !. But there supposed to be a “crop” which after the 20 year obligation period there mine to do with as I please. There’s nothing in the contract that states otherwise, like there more than likely is in the later stewardship contracts !.