Ploughing today

[Howard150]

Roy, I wasn't suggesting that no3 hadn't moved, but even if it hadn't no way could he have expected it to run well.Also are the long metal bars sticking up from the frame the skimmer stalks? If so looks like you could plough deeper with the Simms than the boards, the front one also looks at an angle suggesting stalk or beam are out of true.
Howard 150 I totally agree with all you have said I just hadn't got the courage to be so blunt. As for YL's I cut my teeth on them. I ounce let them get rusty, never again.

Thanks for the entente, Cordiale.
I was very lucky to have two excellent role models in early life, and another two of similar stature in the extended family on my mothers side.
The foremost of all these, my Grandfather, was an amazing ploughman with both horses and tractors, one of the few who excelled with both and created veritable works of art with either.
A man of few words, obviously a trait found wanting in me, he neither took prisoners nor suffered fools gladly, brutally honest and hard working, a man to aspire to.
So you see - its a case of 'cant help it cos' thats the way I'm programmed'. I can honestly assure you - the pen is definitely mightier than either brutality or the sword.
Good luck.
Dave

 

[Roy Stokes]

Roy, I wasn't suggesting that no3 hadn't moved, but even if it hadn't no way could he have expected it to run well.Also are the long metal bars sticking up from the frame the skimmer stalks? If so looks like you could plough deeper with the Simms than the boards, the front one also looks at an angle suggesting stalk or beam are out of true.
Howard 150 I totally agree with all you have said I just hadn't got the courage to be so blunt. As for YL's I cut my teeth on them. I ounce let them get rusty, never again.

No need to explain, I know exactly where you are coming from !

 

[Cordiale]

Some will rob you with a six gun and some will do it with a fountain pen.

 

[massey765]

Some will rob you with a six gun and some will do it with a fountain pen.

It's them bas#ards on the computer buttons that get on my tripe the most​

 

[spindle]

Thank you John for your kind words. There are a few of us on here whose reputation goes before us - as does our list of successes and young ploughmen who we have helped unreservedly.

What you seem to forget is that the young ploughmen we have helped actually asked to be helped, significantly different from the stance you so regularly take on the moral high ground, telling us all how to go on. Stand back and take a look at where you are John, treat your betters with a little bit more respect and most important of all, open up to the fact that you might well be a "bit lower up" the pecking order than you thought!

Have a lovely day. Dave

Watched a program about the Gurker's and it was said the reason that they were such good shots was that when they were being shown how to use a rifle, they came to the British army with no preconceived ideas that they were top marksman, they were prepared to listen what they were being told, IE showed a bit of humility and listened to what the people that know have showed them, when men on here with plenty of silver wear on the shelf give advice I look learn and listen ! I will never stop learning untill I am six foot under just hope it's a long time yet as I love this ploughing

 

[Ley253]

Watched a program about the Gurker's and it was said the reason that they were such good shots was that when they were being shown how to use a rifle, they came to the British army with no preconceived ideas that they were top marksman, they were prepared to listen what they were being told, IE showed a bit of humility and listened to what the people that know have showed them, when men on here with plenty of silver wear on the shelf give advice I look learn and listen ! I will never stop learning untill I am six foot under just hope it's a long time yet as I love this ploughing

Come up to Sarn match on May the 6th, you can learn all about grassland work! ( Oh and dodging stones!) There is a judges seminar at North Petherton on the 19th Feb, fair bit to learn there as well!

 

[spindle]

Yep will do that Harry

 

[Will 1594]

mmmm As the caption ,we all know some one

 

[Howard150]

Watched a program about the Gurker's and it was said the reason that they were such good shots was that when they were being shown how to use a rifle, they came to the British army with no preconceived ideas that they were top marksman, they were prepared to listen what they were being told, IE showed a bit of humility and listened to what the people that know have showed them, when men on here with plenty of silver wear on the shelf give advice I look learn and listen ! I will never stop learning untill I am six foot under just hope it's a long time yet as I love this ploughing

Every day is a school day - and that my friends goes for all of us.

 

[Ley253]

Every day is a school day - and that my friends goes for all of us.

Indeed, and I have a real "school day" coming up, Roland Glanville, Alwyn Davies, and myself are the world style ploughmen for the judges seminar on the 19th! I think I will be doing more learning than the "fledgling" Judges!

 

[Howard150]

Indeed, and I have a real "school day" coming up, Roland Glanville, Alwyn Davies, and myself are the world style ploughmen for the judges seminar on the 19th! I think I will be doing more learning than the "fledgling" Judges!

Every day a school day, some of them a poison chalice day and some a hari-kiri day Harry! Excuse the pun.

What you have to realise is that a judge's seminar is for the propagation of judges and not the edification of ploughmen. What that means is all the aspiring judges in your area will have all your faults ingrained in them by the instructors, an issue which could take years for you to overcome.

One of the problems is that attendees are no longer aspiring judges but suddenly become fully fledged all knowing top class judges, they even have a certificate to prove it. Meanwhile the greater probability is that a good number of them will still not understand the concept of simple things such as 'finishing the wrong way'

 

[Cordiale]

mmmm As the caption ,we all know some one

Looks like mine on a good day!

 

[Ley253]

Every day a school day, some of them a poison chalice day and some a hari-kiri day Harry! Excuse the pun.

What you have to realise is that a judge's seminar is for the propagation of judges and not the edification of ploughmen. What that means is all the aspiring judges in your area will have all your faults ingrained in them by the instructors, an issue which could take years for you to overcome.

One of the problems is that attendees are no longer aspiring judges but suddenly become fully fledged all knowing top class judges, they even have a certificate to prove it. Meanwhile the greater probability is that a good number of them will still not understand the concept of simple things such as 'finishing the wrong way'

Quite right! I feel a migrane coming on!

 

[Roy Stokes]

An anonymous forum member who wishes to remain so has sent some images of our friend @John 1594 'S plot at the ploughing match/ working day, in the interest of helping John improve his ploughing and plough I thought I should share these photographs so we can debate the problems

 

[bobk]

An anonymous forum member who wishes to remain so has sent some images of our friend @John 1594 'S plot at the ploughing match/ working day, in the interest of helping John improve his ploughing and plough I thought I should share these photographs so we can debate the problems
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Give it a rest , you're coming over as pompous tw4t

EDIT , swap for self righteous .
Everyone knows ploughing matches are rigged .

 

[Kevtherev]

Not straight and what are those missing furrows????[emoji848]

 

[Ray996]

Deep ridgeing for spuds maybe?

 

[Roy Stokes]

Well from my 1st quick viewing I would say that the soil looks to be quite solid and would move easily up most mould boards, I do however concede that there is a lot of straw, even after the plough has been through !
The importance of being straight and parallel is highlighted here, it is impossible to make any sort of finish if the 2 sides of the plot are not exactly parallel, my old friend Howard 150 once shouted across to me after he measured from his own work to mine " YOU ARE 3/4 OF AN INCH OUT MR STOKES, PLEASE GET IT RIGHT NEXT TIME !" ..............................................
Whilst John doesn't like the gadgets we use, a simple quick entry top link would have saved him from ploughing nearly half way up the plot without achieving full penetration.
I am glad I haven't got to drill up behind that

 

[Kevtherev]

A rusty plough didn't help John

 

[ploughman61]

An anonymous forum member who wishes to remain so has sent some images of our friend @John 1594 'S plot at the ploughing match/ working day, in the interest of helping John improve his ploughing and plough I thought I should share these photographs so we can debate the problems
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Think it's a new method of vermin control, spot the dead rabbits down the furrows.