Bet weather picks up and they will be fine [emoji16][emoji3]Oh sh!t! I've just weaned 80 and put them in the shed, normally get one or two snotty noses, you've got me worried now
Bet weather picks up and they will be fine [emoji16][emoji3]Oh sh!t! I've just weaned 80 and put them in the shed, normally get one or two snotty noses, you've got me worried now
Bet weather picks up and they will be fine [emoji16][emoji3]
How many calves yous running???
Do you use a pour on them before coming in when giving copper???About 160. Where every possible we rather dose copper and vaccinate 3wk or so before coming in but with late harvest and tip sales etc we haven't had a chance. Makes big difference calves cough up worms before weaning. Didn't get a chance this year.
I've had similar problems with some bulls that have been outside this summer. Look fine one day, minor snotty nose/slight increase of breath on day 2, jabbed with draxxin on day 2, dead on day 3. Steadily lost 8 this summer despite no real signs.Had terrible few days with Pneumonia!
We have never vaccinated as only ever had a few cases a year of pneumonia!
This year we have 160 calves!
We weaned them last week and got them all clipped and gave a pour on, also de-horned the few that needed done!
Come friday just passed had to jag 2 for pneumonia but they werent that bad and have responded well, same again on saturday and those 2 are fine!
On sunday had 2 that were really bad amd gave both Draxxin and Metacam, yesterday morning one was lying dead!
Had about 5 new ones showing signs so ran them thru race and jagged!
At night went into shed and found another one dead that before hadnt shown signs (that i had noticed)
This morning we pulled out 38 that were showing signs from slightly snotty noses right thru to ones panting heavily etc!
Decided time to call vet out!
Started going through them and even the ones that looked ok gad temperatures around 40celcius!
We done everything that had 40+ temp with draxxin and metacam and anyrhing from 39 - 40 with Hexasol!
Sent 2 deads for PM so hopefully find the virus cause so can vaccinate next year for the proper strain!
Sometimes the job makes you almost feel like giving up [emoji22][emoji22][emoji22]
Do you use a pour on them before coming in when giving copper???
We have always just given them pour on for lungworm etc once we have brought them inside!
thats what I posted on another thread I am sure the ones that start a pneumonia outbreak with us are the sucklers bought in which are not used to creep and it is that extra stress level that kicks it in I will try to remember in future the slow eaters and avoid at marketI appreciate folk rather spring calving so closer to turn out, but wonder if things would be better across the board if calved in jan? May even use less straw despite probably using more jan/feb/mach, may not be so heavy on weaning in November which is about the only month to be consistent year on year, lack of air, misty damp and big variation in temps from night to day. Im more flexible than most so realise not everyone can do the same, but weaned some few weeks back and pulled some a bit smaller so a lot can be left to January. Out of interest @bruce9001 , were they eating well prior to weaning?
Sorry to hear of your troubles. We have found in the past that it works well if you treat the first ones with draxxin/metacam or resflor etc and then jab all of the others with terramycin (alamycin/duphacyclin). It seems to stop it in it's tracks. Admittedly we don't have as many as you do.
Just out of interest if going through all to blanket treat with alamycin, what temp do people use as a cut off and jag with a stronger drug???
All had been on creep feed for 6 weeks + and feeders were in shed.I appreciate folk rather spring calving so closer to turn out, but wonder if things would be better across the board if calved in jan? May even use less straw despite probably using more jan/feb/mach, may not be so heavy on weaning in November which is about the only month to be consistent year on year, lack of air, misty damp and big variation in temps from night to day. Im more flexible than most so realise not everyone can do the same, but weaned some few weeks back and pulled some a bit smaller so a lot can be left to January. Out of interest @bruce9001 , were they eating well prior to weaning?
There is alot of coughing going on but hard to tell if work burden they shedding out or due to pneumonia@bruce9001 what pour on did you use? Any different to last year?
Could they have had a heavy worm burden to set the whole thing off?
I hear what you say but do you think the shed may be the problem, have you got any others in a different shed. Our calf shed only had sheets on North side completely open on other 3 appreciate that wouldn’t work for everyone thoughThey are inside a newly built shed with ideal ventilation conditions so the air can move etc but is not drafty!
Had terrible few days with Pneumonia!
We have never vaccinated as only ever had a few cases a year of pneumonia!
This year we have 160 calves!
We weaned them last week and got them all clipped and gave a pour on, also de-horned the few that needed done!
Come friday just passed had to jag 2 for pneumonia but they werent that bad and have responded well, same again on saturday and those 2 are fine!
On sunday had 2 that were really bad amd gave both Draxxin and Metacam, yesterday morning one was lying dead!
Had about 5 new ones showing signs so ran them thru race and jagged!
At night went into shed and found another one dead that before hadnt shown signs (that i had noticed)
This morning we pulled out 38 that were showing signs from slightly snotty noses right thru to ones panting heavily etc!
Decided time to call vet out!
Started going through them and even the ones that looked ok gad temperatures around 40celcius!
We done everything that had 40+ temp with draxxin and metacam and anyrhing from 39 - 40 with Hexasol!
Sent 2 deads for PM so hopefully find the virus cause so can vaccinate next year for the proper strain!
Sometimes the job makes you almost feel like giving up [emoji22][emoji22][emoji22]