PRO CIDE DRENCH

[johnspeehs]

Sorry for another post but has anyone used this? Good reports of it getting around in this area

 

[neilo]

I’ve seen ‘reviews’(ads) doing the rounds on Faceache recently. There appears to be a complete absence of any proper trial data or proof of efficacy though, just anecdotal tales of wonder results....

‘Buyer beware’ I would suggest.

 

[johnspeehs]

I’ve seen ‘reviews’(ads) doing the rounds on Faceache recently. There appears to be a complete absence of any proper trial data or proof of efficacy though, just anecdotal tales of wonder results....

‘Buyer beware’ I would suggest.

Well that's what I was wondering as its the " Yea, so and so used it and dried up his lambs in a day" type of sales pitch its getting, apparently all the top stockmen are using it

 

[irish dom]

Well it has no withdrawal but apparently kills everything. I wouldn't be too convinced but then your man down the road uses it so it must be good! You wouid think if it was that good thy would have trials done.
It was like an agri lloyd rep who told me anyone not using their wonder drench would be gone out of business in 5 years as they wouldn't be able to keep up without it. Ironically hes gone since as he could sell damn all of it and we're still plodding along in the slow lane.

 

[JohnGalway]

I used it this year, just one dose, couldn't tell ya if it was any good or not. But, I am keeping some ewe lambs, and I plan to FEC them soon and give them a drench of it, then FEC them again. I think the only way to find out if this works is to test it. A couple of questions I'd have over it, I think the blurb is about keeping good gut health, so does it do anything for a poorly animal in the first place? Secondly, if an animal is out on infected pastures, does it have any preventative action?

 

[johnspeehs]

Well it has no withdrawal but apparently kills everything. I wouldn't be too convinced but then your man down the road uses it so it must be good! You wouid think if it was that good thy would have trials done.
It was like an agri lloyd rep who told me anyone not using their wonder drench would be gone out of business in 5 years as they wouldn't be able to keep up without it. Ironically hes gone since as he could sell damn all of it and we're still plodding along in the slow lane.

When I just started out and hadn't the price of a postage stamp the local Mac Min rep called in and talked me into minerals for my ewe lambs, said it was the best money I would ever spend so I told him to leave me out enough to do 100 ewe lambs. A few days later a van arrived with a pallet of bags and a bill for £600,, nearly put my light out before I got started and buggered if I noticed one bit of difference in my sheep. Next year when he called he wasn't in the yard long.

 

[Nithsdale]

Well that's what I was wondering as its the " Yea, so and so used it and dried up his lambs in a day" type of sales pitch its getting, apparently all the top stockmen are using it

I don't know anyone on here who is using it

 

[T Mark]

I used it this year, just one dose, couldn't tell ya if it was any good or not. But, I am keeping some ewe lambs, and I plan to FEC them soon and give them a drench of it, then FEC them again. I think the only way to find out if this works is to test it. A couple of questions I'd have over it, I think the blurb is about keeping good gut health, so does it do anything for a poorly animal in the first place? Secondly, if an animal is out on infected pastures, does it have any preventative action?

 

[T Mark]

Did you ever get any results from using this miracle wonder drench?any difference in FEC samples before and after use?
It nearly sounds too good to be true, does it work,or just snake oil ?

 

[neilo]

Did you ever get any results from using this miracle wonder drench?any difference in FEC samples before and after use?
It nearly sounds too good to be true, does it work,or just snake oil ?

‘nearly’?

 

[T Mark]

‘nearly’?

I take it you're a fellow sceptic!!saw it on donedeal, keeps telling where its stocked,but never gives me any trial results-wonder why??!!!

 

[andybk]

I will make a bet its oregano extract or something very similar , same as imuherb from brinicombes , at the right dose it kills cocci and a lot of other pathogens ,widley used in the bird world . still wouldt be trusting it with worms etc ,

 

[T Mark]

Wormwood extract is main active ingredient, supposed to be used in a number of human treatments

 

[Highland Mule]

Wormwood extract is main active ingredient, supposed to be used in a number of human treatments

Absinthe being the most well known.

 

[andybk]

A lot to be said for these herbal treatments , anything to relieve some of the cash we pour into elanco etc ,and as an added weapon to resistance needs proper trials though .Will be the future one way or another

 

[Anymulewilldo]

A lot to be said for these herbal treatments , anything to relieve some of the cash we pour into elanco etc ,and as an added weapon to resistance needs proper trials though .Will be the future one way or another

Yeah, it’s called Snake Oil…

until they come out with some proper trials data I’ll keep adding too Elanco and the other bandits pockets. At least that stuff works and is proven! No point spending money on summat you can draw could draw up out of a puddle in the yard!

 

[T Mark]

A lot to be said for these herbal treatments , anything to relieve some of the cash we pour into elanco etc ,and as an added weapon to resistance needs proper trials though .Will be the future one way or another

If this is so good,and been around for centuries, why did anyone bother to invent anthelmintic?
Same with these garlic/allowing boluses to treat mastitis, why did Alexander Fleming bother inventing penicillin?

 

[Estate fencing.]

Yeah, it’s called Snake Oil…

until they come out with some proper trials data I’ll keep adding too Elanco and the other bandits pockets. At least that stuff works and is proven! No point spending money on summat you can draw could draw up out of a puddle in the yard!

Give it to those hoggs your where going to feed to the dogs and they will be worth £120 by the end of next week. . People get taken in by these products. Got someone that I help bought garlic mineral buckets instead of cliking the lambs. They spent £200 on them instead of £185 for the Clik. Now have got a load with stike and have to treat the lot!

 

[primmiemoo]

Good mixed herbage in the sward, and access to browse from the hedges will help stock maintain healthy guts, and contribute to their resilience to gut worms. They cut the need for "just in case", and "just because" routine drenches in conjunction with FECs, and selecting for resistant strains for flock replacements. There's still too many unnecessary drenches of anthelmintic given to stock, apparently ~ encouraging resistant parasites.

Garlic doesn't discourage determined varieties of blowflies! Whoever thought that it can do more than deter headflies, and horseflies a bit?

 

[Estate fencing.]

Garlic doesn't discourage determined varieties of blowflies! Whoever thought that it can do more than deter headflies, and horseflies a bit?

I was bought by someone who thinks they are clever and sold by the classic “salesman”.