"Project fear" proven right....GOVERNMENT WASTES NO TIME IN SHUTTING DOWN UK FARMS!!!!

[Bossfarmer]

As many predicted and were accused of "scaremongering" and "project fear" before the brexit vote, the government has announced farm subsidies in england are being phased out completely starting next year, they are being "replaced" with enviro payments but the nasty truth of the matter is these payments wont even be an option until 2024 by which point youll have gone 3 years of cuts with nothing to replace them and the new schemes may cost money to participate in so wont be profit, you may even find that most schemes are not suitable to your farm, where does this leave the majority of english farmers who as george eustice admitted "rely on direct support" for profitability???

The government has dressed this nasty betrayal up by saying such things as theyre going to "tackle the causes of poor profitability" but at the same time save the environment and animal welfare, are they not aware of the effect removing support had in NZ? farms scaled up massively, farmed more intensively with big dairies polluting rivers right left and centre??

 

[Farmer Roy]

 

[B'o'B]

@Bossfarmer are you incapable of thinking about anything else?

 

[Bossfarmer]

@Bossfarmer are you incapable of thinking about anything else?

not when every farming paper i open is full of the nonsense

 

[B'o'B]

Looks more than half full to me (but that could just be an optical illusion)

 

[Wellytrack]

I’m not sure what you are saying. Is there a question in there? All I hear is another rant about subs. Could you possibly post a thread not about subs?

It’s like a one man Jihad.

 

[Bossfarmer]

I’m not sure what you are saying. Is there a question in there? All I hear is another rant about subs. Could you possibly post a thread not about subs?

It’s like a one man Jihad.

ok lets just pretend its not happening

 

[B'o'B]

not when every farming paper i open is full of the nonsense

well if you think it’s nonsense why do you keep regurgitating it!

 

[Farmer Roy]

Looks more than half full to me (but that could just be an optional illusion)

not the rum bottle in the background

 

[Mc115reed]

Let’s all learn how to run a profitable business without needed government hand outs then? Actually a level playing field for all farmers then.... plenty making a good living without subs out there...

 

[Wellytrack]

ok lets just pretend its not happening

Your farming how many acres?

 

[Henarar]

As many predicted and were accused of "scaremongering" and "project fear" before the brexit vote, the government has announced farm subsidies in england are being phased out completely starting next year, they are being "replaced" with enviro payments but the nasty truth of the matter is these payments wont even be an option until 2024 by which point youll have gone 3 years of cuts with nothing to replace them and the new schemes may cost money to participate in so wont be profit, you may even find that most schemes are not suitable to your farm, where does this leave the majority of english farmers who as george eustice admitted "rely on direct support" for profitability???

The government has dressed this nasty betrayal up by saying such things as theyre going to "tackle the causes of poor profitability" but at the same time save the environment and animal welfare, are they not aware of the effect removing support had in NZ? farms scaled up massively, farmed more intensively with big dairies polluting rivers right left and centre??

yep the barstewards
but on the bright side for you when us on the poor side of the boarder have gone bust owing to it you will still have your subs and the market all to yourselves up there in the land of easy money

 

[Bossfarmer]

Your farming how many acres?

it doesnt affect me im in scotland

 

[Bossfarmer]

Let’s all learn how to run a profitable business without needed government hand outs then? Actually a level playing field for all farmers then.... plenty making a good living without subs out there...

waken up there is no level playing field when irish subs are going up and their beef is flooding across the border

 

[Henarar]

it doesnt affect me im in scotland

So you are all right " Jack"
so you just started this thread to rub our noses in it
thanks very much
love you to I am sure

 

[Bossfarmer]

I cant believe theres not more outrage amoungst English farmers, have you all been brainwashed with the run a "lean business", "be more efficient" crap the government spout, are you aware your still getting 1980s prices and the only help to bridge that gap is being stopped???

 

[Bossfarmer]

So you are all right " Jack"
so you just started this thread to rub our noses in it
thanks very much
love you to I am sure

Im angry for you, its the way they dress up the truth that annoys me

 

[Wellytrack]

it doesnt affect me im in scotland

Why have you started a thread about it if it doesn’t effect you?

 

[Nithsdale]

I cant believe theres not more outrage amoungst English farmers, have you all been brainwashed with the run a "lean business", "be more efficient" crap the government spout, are you aware your still getting 1980s prices and the only help to bridge that gap is being stopped???

They voted for it, so leave them to it

 

[Bossfarmer]

Why have you started a thread about it if it doesn’t effect you?

Why does it need to affect me?