Red Tractor - Mass Cancellation

[Grass And Grain]

I'm keeping an open mind about it. If all the trading terms are legal, and if we presume that the NFU won't help, then i think there should still be some effort made to vent the frustrations of UK farmers to these unfair trade terms.

Tell me if I'm wrong, but to stipulate UK crop must be farm assured, but it is perfectly ok to use non-assured imported crop, must surely be nonsense.

If it is considered safe to use non-assured imported crop (grown with pesticides which are banned in the UK), then it must also be ok to use non-assured UK crop.

 

[kiwi pom]

I'm keeping an open mind about it. If all the trading terms are legal, and if we presume that the NFU won't help, then i think there should still be some effort made to vent the frustrations of UK farmers to these unfair trade terms.

Tell me if I'm wrong, but to stipulate UK crop must be farm assured, but it is perfectly ok to use non-assured imported crop, must surely be nonsense.

If it is considered safe to use non-assured imported crop (grown with pesticides which are banned in the UK), then it must also be ok to use non-assured UK crop.

So are mills importing the same crops as they're buying off UK farmers?
Can they get what they need from UK farms, they just choose not to?

 

[Grass And Grain]

@kiwi pom it's things that we can't grow like soya, so there is understandably no choice for the mills but to import it. That's no problem at all.

The soyabean meal isn't farm assured at the individual farm level from the US, argentina, brazil etc. Again, we don't have a problem with this. What we are annoyed about is the UK assurance schemes saying that the UK grains that go into the same compound feed must be farm assured, which is a nonsense if they say that it's perfectly ok to use non-assured soyabean meal.

 

[primmiemoo]

From BBC red button under Business, it looks like there's already pressure being put for UK to drop the current ban on imports of growth hormone-fed beef, post-B— word.

The "reward" for change is an agreement to supply the NHS with more medicines from the US, which is being lobbied for by pharmaceutical firms.

Ye deities, I hope that's fake news [Thud!]

 

[Werzle]

From BBC red button under Business, it looks like there's already pressure being put for UK to drop the current ban on imports of growth hormone-fed beef, post-B— word.

The "reward" for change is an agreement to supply the NHS with more medicines from the US, which is being lobbied for by pharmaceutical firms.

Ye deities, I hope that's fake news [Thud!]

The US puts this forward in all trade deals as a point to start from. The uk will never allow hormone fed beef

 

[kiwi pom]

@kiwi pom it's things that we can't grow like soya, so there is understandably no choice for the mills but to import it. That's no problem at all.

The soyabean meal isn't farm assured at the individual farm level from the US, argentina, brazil etc. Again, we don't have a problem with this. What we are annoyed about is the UK assurance schemes saying that the UK grains that go into the same compound feed must be farm assured, which is a nonsense if they say that it's perfectly ok to use non-assured soyabean meal.

OK I'm with you now, they're not importing half the wheat and buying half from the UK but using different standards?
Your sure imported soya etc isn't assured in any way, Global G.A.P for example?
I guess their argument will be they use what is available in each country and if there isn't anything they cant use it. If RT wasn't around in the UK (maybe it shouldn't be) they'd just use whatever else is out there or create their own.

 

[FarmerBruce]

@kiwi pom it's things that we can't grow like soya, so there is understandably no choice for the mills but to import it. That's no problem at all.

The soyabean meal isn't farm assured at the individual farm level from the US, argentina, brazil etc. Again, we don't have a problem with this. What we are annoyed about is the UK assurance schemes saying that the UK grains that go into the same compound feed must be farm assured, which is a nonsense if they say that it's perfectly ok to use non-assured soyabean meal.

This isn't entirely correct. Ask frontier what they are doing with the tens of thousands of tons of unassured, bug infested wheat that they bought to go into vivergo before it closed!!!