Right to roam in England

[Vader]

Labour vows to introduce Scottish-style right to roam law in England

Party promises to enshrine in law equal access to benefits of green spaces if it wins next election

www.theguardian.com

People will respect nature more apparently...

 

[betweenthelines]

Most people think they can go wherever they like anyway so you might as well make it legal.

 

[robs1]

Labour vows to introduce Scottish-style right to roam law in England

Party promises to enshrine in law equal access to benefits of green spaces if it wins next election

www.theguardian.com

People will respect nature more apparently...

I saw that yesterday what are these people on

 

[4course]

Labour vows to introduce Scottish-style right to roam law in England

Party promises to enshrine in law equal access to benefits of green spaces if it wins next election

www.theguardian.com

People will respect nature more apparently...

reckon most people(population) havnt a clue about nature and never will have !! and that includes the policy makers to the jim jam wearing shopper

 

[M-J-G]

Labour vows to introduce Scottish-style right to roam law in England

Party promises to enshrine in law equal access to benefits of green spaces if it wins next election

www.theguardian.com

People will respect nature more apparently...

I read more about issues with walkers in England than I do in Scotland where there is a right to roam.

People in Scotland have a right to responsible access to the countryside, as soon as they act in an irresponsible manner, they deny themselves that right.

I don't blame you for being afraid of the unknown, I was very dubious about it when it was first suggested here too, but it hasn't made any significant difference to us despite being next to a built up area on 3 out of 4 farms.

 

[Swarfmonkey]

I saw that yesterday what are these people on

Meth or crack?

Those who call for R2R should first have it imposed on their properties and workplaces. See how keen they are on the concept after they've been on the receiving end of it.

 

[FonterraFarmer]

Labour vows to introduce Scottish-style right to roam law in England

Party promises to enshrine in law equal access to benefits of green spaces if it wins next election

www.theguardian.com

People will respect nature more apparently...

As we would say back in NZ, if you don't own it the far cough....

 

[FonterraFarmer]

Meth or crack?

Those who call for R2R should first have it imposed on their properties and workplaces. See how keen they are on the concept after they've been on the receiving end of it.

Eh, thats the same question raised with regard to Justin Terdeau or that ex PM bimbo from New Zealand....

 

[Vader]

I read more about issues with walkers in England than I do in Scotland where there is a right to roam.

People in Scotland have a right to responsible access to the countryside, as soon as they act in an irresponsible manner, they deny themselves that right.

I don't blame you for being afraid of the unknown, I was very dubious about it when it was first suggested here too, but it hasn't made any significant difference to us despite being next to a built up area on 3 out of 4 farms.

We farm on urban fringe.
Most days I have to tell ppl to get out of the fields.
So when they allowed to be there, then what?

If they get sick from the spray I applied an hr before then what?

If a cow kills someone as they walked through a field that's never had a footpath, but now they can walk where they want, then what?

Average joe public is clueless.
They just want a giant dog walking park.

 

[Bury the Trash]

Eh, thats the same question raised with regard to Justin Turdeau or that ex PM bimbo from New Zealand....

didnt quite get that right for full ironic effect , edited for you

 

[Swarfmonkey]

Eh, thats the same question raised with regard to Justin Terdeau or that ex PM bimbo from New Zealand....

Those two egomaniacs? Gotta be coke.

 

[FonterraFarmer]

Those two egomaniacs? Gotta be coke.

No the word I'd use to describe them or any organisations that associate with them, eh.

 

[M-J-G]

We farm on urban fringe.
Most days I have to tell ppl to get out of the fields.
So when they allowed to be there, then what?

If they get sick from the spray I applied an hr before then what?

If a cow kills someone as they walked through a field that's never had a footpath, but now they can walk where they want, then what?

Average joe public is clueless.
They just want a giant dog walking park.

We're on the outskirts of a city, so I get where you're coming from, but it's not any worse than it was 20 years ago despite the city getting closer.

People in fields with cows and calves etc. is irresponsible, meaning they don't have the right to be there.

 

[Vader]

We're on the outskirts of a city, so I get where you're coming from, but it's not any worse than it was 20 years ago despite the city getting closer.

People in fields with cows and calves etc. is irresponsible, meaning they don't have the right to be there.

At the moment I can give them a bollocking and they leave.
Local area residents know that's there is a grumpy farmer and a gamekeeper watching the land. So most keep off.
If they have legal right to walk where they want, then they won't.

I can guarantee that nature will disappear as dogs in every conservation block and dog lads and poachers will have a field day.

 

[Filthyfarmer]

At the moment I can give them a bollocking and they leave.
Local area residents know that's there is a grumpy farmer and a gamekeeper watching the land. So most keep off.
If they have legal right to walk where they want, then they won't.

I can guarantee that nature will disappear as dogs in every conservation block and dog lads and poachers will have a field day.

If it does happen then there should be a closed period during the spring hatching period to give ground nesters a chance. Bad enough for them with the corvids and badgers around here.

 

[M-J-G]

At the moment I can give them a bollocking and they leave.
Local area residents know that's there is a grumpy farmer and a gamekeeper watching the land. So most keep off.
If they have legal right to walk where they want, then they won't.

I can guarantee that nature will disappear as dogs in every conservation block and dog lads and poachers will have a field day.

But if they are acting in an irresponsible manner they don't have the legal right to roam, and you can ask them to leave, or give them a bollocking if that's your preferred approach.

All I can speak about farming 3 units on the city outskirts where people have had the right to roam for 20 years, and it has made no difference, so I would say you're being a bit dramatic about the idea, particularly with regard to poachers, since when did they allow the law to make any difference to what they do.

 

[Paddington]

Perhaps they have come to see the rewilded countryside, bracken, thistles, brambles, waist high nettles, overgrown footpaths complete with loads of biting insects ?

 

[Vader]

But if they are acting in an irresponsible manner they don't have the legal right to roam, and you can ask them to leave, or give them a bollocking if that's your preferred approach.

All I can speak about farming 3 units on the city outskirts where people have had the right to roam for 20 years, and it has made no difference, so I would say you're being a bit dramatic about the idea, particularly with regard to poachers, since when did they allow the law to make any difference to what they do.

At the moment poachers have to stick to footpaths. If not we can kick them off.
No excuse to be where they are.
Right to roam they can go anywhere.
So can go where they want to poach legally (walking not poaching) check about, no one in sight, start poaching.
Someone appears, they can just walk on.

Same we have a wild wood, full of bluebells. Had to fence it off to stop people trampling the flowers take selfies laid among them. Or digging them up go take away.

Joe public sadly is a danger to nature and should be kept away from it apart from current footpaths.

 

[M-J-G]

At the moment poachers have to stick to footpaths. If not we can kick them off.
No excuse to be where they are.
Right to roam they can go anywhere.
So can go where they want to poach legally (walking not poaching) check about, no one in sight, start poaching.
Someone appears, they can just walk on.

Same we have a wild wood, full of bluebells. Had to fence it off to stop people trampling the flowers take selfies laid among them. Or digging them up go take away.

Joe public sadly is a danger to nature and should be kept away from it apart from current footpaths.

It sounds like you have extremely civilized poachers and very vandalistic/feral members of the public in your area.
If the poachers will leave when you ask them to and stick to footpaths they sound like good guys, maybe you should get them to educate Joe public for you.

If the public are going into your woods to trample and steal flowers it just shows that the footpath system doesn't work anyway (plus the footpaths are providing a legal artery for poachers to carve through your land)
We have about 100ac of woods on one rented place that's part of an open park that will get thousands of walkers and I have yet to see any more than a handful of people off the tracks in the woods and I've yet to see anyone doing any damage or stealing bluebells.

 

[Vader]

It sounds like you have extremely civilized poachers and very vandalistic/feral members of the public in your area.
If the poachers will leave when you ask them to and stick to footpaths they sound like good guys, maybe you should get them to educate Joe public for you.

If the public are going into your woods to trample and steal flowers it just shows that the footpath system doesn't work anyway (plus the footpaths are providing a legal artery for poachers to carve through your land)
We have about 100ac of woods on one rented place that's part of an open park that will get thousands of walkers and I have yet to see any more than a handful of people off the tracks in the woods and I've yet to see anyone doing any damage or stealing bluebells.

Poachers know the laws and use them.
Some risk going other places but know it's a risk.
Also if they local they are known and know their known..