Rosy Lane Dairy

[buffalo_soldier]

It's the management triangle thing, all the important stuff at the bottom like health, nutrition,etc. that have the most effect on the whole. With the extras at the top that have the least effect, like Fent's for example. With everything else in-between.


Are Dairy co doing good stuff nowadays then out of interest?

 

[Grassman247]

Breeding for health and fertility for 12 years plus by using genomics combined with a excellent setup and top staff.

7 services to conception and you think that’s good fertility. [emoji23]

 

[Hotspur]

7 services to conception and you think that’s good fertility.

Its 1.7, so yes its quite good. Although the 38% preg rate is misleading as they are all synched to be served on the 72 day VWP.

 

[Grassman247]

Its 1.7, so yes its quite good.

1.5 here on 1100 cows, do I get a free trip to America?

 

[Hotspur]

1.5 here on 1100 cows, do I get a free trip to America?

Maybe you should if your that good...have you used and Antibiotics in the last 3 years though?

 

[rusty]

I went to the talk in Cheshire and have also visited their farm 3 times. First time in 1996 on an ADAS trip when they were milking 160 through a 60 place tie stall barn and a cubicle shed. By 2005 they had a 16/16 parlour and 550 cows. Last time I visited was in 2009 when I did my Nuffield Farming scholarship and they had expanded parlour to its current 24/24 and gone to 900 cows.
They have always been very good on their genetics. When I was there in 2009 most of the cows were by Oman or Ramos, so they got into the functional not fancy cows early. They don't classify any cows and major on health and management traits.

 

[buffalo_soldier]

1.5 here on 1100 cows, do I get a free trip to America?

Is that per 1000kg/ms like them?

 

[Blue.]

The big thing is no antibiotics used for mastitis in the last 5 years.

https://www.thescottishfarmer.co.uk/business_sales/17517241.health-and-hygiene-key-to-profits/

Regards profit and size,you never really get/honest info,but look on company check at two of the largest herds in the country and their finances are dismal

 

[Spear]

Loads of misprints in the article I could see online. Medicine costs @40p/litre [emoji23] so I’m not sure what figures to believe in it.
To me the outstanding if correct figures no one seems to have mentioned are milk quality vs yield.
We have high yielding cows and high quality but only manage 4.2F 3.6P @ 13000 but yield and quality are still improving.

 

[Dead Rabbits]

AHDB have been on for a few weeks doing meetings with RLD, has anyone been?

They have an article in the farmers weekly this week, and reading the farm facts i wonder what pearls of wisdom they have been here sharing?

1075 cows 950 cows in milk.
20 full time staff plus 4 partners.
720 ha of maize and alfalfa
7 services to conception
1.1ppl vet cost. Was 3.2!!!

Wow.

That said, they sell 13757l per cow at 4 and 3.9..

49% milk from forage.

Cant see what theynare doing is so special, so can someone put me straight please.

I’m pretty interested in their success with reducing antibiotic use.

 

[Horn&corn]

Went to Newbury meeting and it was a really good meeting and a well run farm. Lots of talk on staff management, disease management and succession plan which was very thought provoking.
Total COP 27.7ppl so not massively profitable but didn’t reveal milk price to us. Almost zero antibiotics with drenching used for sick cows. Cows left for 8hrs if seen calving and presented correctly. He was sure this would go badly but been a huge success.
One of the best AHDB for a while

 

[Holsteinfriesian90]

They bred some quite good bulls I think Barney was popular.

 

[buffalo_soldier]

Would like to know what it's cost first but I think it's not a bad idea bringing over top end folks to do a tour.
It makes them a lot more accessible than say having to do a Nuffield.

I get that I've missed this as I don't engage with levy boards but its the sort of thing I would ask of them.

De-Su Holstiens would be a good one.

 

[Will Blackburn]

When the 49% forage ration is maize and lucerne it makes a mockery of trying to emulate that over here. In addition the purchased grain is substantially cheaper. The COP trying to copy that would be way over 30p in the UK.

 

[rusty]

What they did not say was what their output per litre was. There were some genetic sales which would add up. Think he said one year they had sold about 40 bulls to AI companies. Alta had a tie up with them for a while where they had first choice of any bull calves.

They also paid $300 / acre rent on a lot of the ground they farmed. This land was either owned by LLoyd and Daphne or either of there two business partners. This was an above market rent but allowed them to buy land with the aim of paying of the loan within 10 years. The two partners (Herd manager and crops/machinery manager) were buying out LLoyd and Daphne's equity in the trading business over time. The company paid the 4 share holders a 4% dividend on there shares every year and then any remaining surplus was split evenly between the four partners regardless of the level of equity they held in the company. The four partners were also paid a salary from the company. Lloyd and Daphne had a lower salary than the other two as they didnt put as much work in now as the others.

The above does cloud the 27.7 ppl cost of production figure somewhat.
On the vet costs they do use an awful lot of vaccines and breeding shots which must mount up.

 

[dinderleat]

Would like to know what it's cost first but I think it's not a bad idea bringing over top end folks to do a tour.
It makes them a lot more accessible than say having to do a Nuffield.

I get that I've missed this as I don't engage with levy boards but its the sort of thing I would ask of them.

De-Su Holstiens would be a good one.

Would love to see seagull bay herd always look like proper cows in any pictures they put up.

 

[ollie989898]

If you look at the USDA figures for dairy, which I think are broken down by state or region, they never look that impressive compared to what many of you will be doing in the UK.

It is too easy to be distracted by the headline numbers to see the crux of it.

 

[Scholsey]

They bred some quite good bulls I think Barney was popular.

Got some Barney daughters in milk and seem like well put together things, even when out of extreme holstein cows.

 

[Cowski]

I went to the evening talk at Shepton which was really well organised and attended. The main take home message Lloyd put across was around the hidden cost of replacements however it was really a brief overview of their business and story. I had been expecting a revelation about not using milking cow antibiotics but I certainly didn’t get that- apparently they aren’t allowed to teat seal so give dry cow tubes to everything at dry off and the main types of mastitis they were getting (e coli and klebsiealla) don’t respond to tubes so they stopped doing it- they didn’t set out ‘not to tube’ and are behind us on selective dry cow therapy. He also talked very frankly (refreshing) about their use of repro hormones, everything double ov synch (we breed on thursdays) which he could see wasn’t maybe the greatest idea for several reasons but it’s what is working for them currently. To me it was one of the big opportunities he has to move the cows forward there genetically.
The biggest take home for me was actually around the current margin we have in the uk- we need to be grateful for it, don’t take it for granted and be prepared for the day we may loose it.
Overall very worthwhile attending and a good use of levy money (even for someone like me with grass rats)

 

[Spudley]

I went to the talk in Carmarthen, I'm pretty sure he said their milk price was 29 ppl.