RSPCA bovine tb consulation survey !!

[tje]

I know its the RSPCA and extremely biased but please fill it in ...

Bovine Tuberculosis - Tackling Bovine TB | RSPCA - RSPCA - rspca.org.uk

Read our views on bovine tuberculosis and badger culling, including what we're doing to help find better ways to manage bovine TB in cattle herds.

www.rspca.org.uk

 

[vantage]

I know its the RSPCA and extremely biased but please fill it in ...

Bovine Tuberculosis - Tackling Bovine TB | RSPCA - RSPCA - rspca.org.uk

Read our views on bovine tuberculosis and badger culling, including what we're doing to help find better ways to manage bovine TB in cattle herds.

www.rspca.org.uk

I had a brief scan, a lot of suppositions , a lot of heresay , mainly denial. An easy solution would be for the RSPCA to channel their immense wealth into my pocket so I can implement what they suggest.

 

[steveR]

Done.

A heavily loaded and biased survey, but should be done by any cattle farmer if only to counter some of teh RSPCA propaganda a bit!

 

[Frank-the-Wool]

Definitely needs doing. Don't forget the other benefits of a reduced Badger population.

 

[Badger Bob]

Done.

A heavily loaded and biased survey, but should be done by any cattle farmer if only to counter some of teh RSPCA propaganda a bit!

Biased towards the innocent badger!

 

[Badger Bob]

Definitely needs doing. Don't forget the other benefits of a reduced Badger population.

Its Bovine TB. Sort your own house out first. What's wrong with inoculation of cows rather than murdering innocent badgers?

 

[Jackov Altraids]

Biased towards the innocent badger!

It has been continually said by those wishing to protect badgers that they don't spread TB.
It was then said that the cull isn't working because it is moving badgers and spreading TB further.
A contradiction me thinks.
Healthy badgers are happy badgers which we are all happy to have.

 

[Formatted]

Sort your own house out first. What's wrong with inoculation of cows rather than murdering innocent badgers?

The fact that a vaccine for cattle has not be developed that is safe for human consumption?

 

[Jackov Altraids]

The fact that a vaccine for cattle has not be developed that is safe for human consumption?

My understanding is that there is such a vaccine but that EU law requires animals to be tested and vaccinated animals cannot be tested.
Vaccinating all the cattle in the UK would be fine but on its own, it wouldn't cure the suffering in badgers.

 

[Frank-the-Wool]

Its Bovine TB. Sort your own house out first. What's wrong with inoculation of cows rather than murdering innocent badgers?

I am happy to see a healthy population of Badgers which are controlled in numbers. We have so many now that they are a risk to themselves and have devastated the ground nesting birds and Hedgehogs.
I am convinced that if the numbers of Badgers were in balance in the environment then we would not have the disease or wildlife issues. I can go out at night lamping rabbits and foxes and regularly see up to 20 Badgers on 150 acres. That is just far too many.

 

[Yale]

I am happy to see a healthy population of Badgers which are controlled in numbers. We have so many now that they are a risk to themselves and have devastated the ground nesting birds and Hedgehogs.
I am convinced that if the numbers of Badgers were in balance in the environment then we would not have the disease or wildlife issues. I can go out at night lamping rabbits and foxes and regularly see up to 20 Badgers on 150 acres. That is just far too many.

They are digging holes everywhere here for worms.

Maybe I should take it as a complement as we must have a healthy worm population.

Annoying though!

 

[Water Wheel]

Its Bovine TB. Sort your own house out first. What's wrong with inoculation of cows rather than murdering innocent badgers?

Unfortunately the only vaccine available is BCG developed over 80 years ago and used in the human population with only very limited success, which is why TB is still one of the worlds main killer infectious diseases .Read the WHO site on TB , zoonotic TB, and vaccination. Inspite of vaccination one third of the worlds population has latent TB.
Vaccinating cattle or badgers will not stop either catching TB , but may reduce the severity of the resultant disease to some degree.

 

[steveR]

Vaccinating cattle or badgers will not stop either catching TB , but may reduce the severity of the resultant disease to some degree.

Which is why the only place a vaccine should be used, is in the Edge areas, on Badgers...

 

[steveR]

Its Bovine TB. Sort your own house out first. What's wrong with inoculation of cows rather than murdering innocent badgers?

Well Bob, when you have had a quiet word with said Badgers, and arranged with them to only pee, crap and spit on designated areas away from any livestock, you may have a point....

 

[Water Wheel]

Which is why the only place a vaccine should be used, is in the Edge areas, on Badgers...

Its too late in many Edge areas, suggest Low Risk areas bordering Edge for vaccination.

 

[vantage]

Funny how the rest of the world use the intradermal test, control other vectors of the disease and then manage to reduce and eradicate bovine Tb . NZ has all but eliminated it, with twice the dairy cow population.
We have had a closed herd for 15 years, no neighbours keeping cattle , so all the smartassses of the RSPCA , where did our herd’s TB come from?

 

[Princess Pooper]

Its Bovine TB. Sort your own house out first. What's wrong with inoculation of cows rather than murdering innocent badgers?

Do you not think we would vaccinate if we could?

 

[Princess Pooper]

Funny how the rest of the world use the intradermal test, control other vectors of the disease and then manage to reduce and eradicate bovine Tb . NZ has all but eliminated it, with twice the dairy cow population.
We have had a closed herd for 15 years, no neighbours keeping cattle , so all the smartassses of the RSPCA , where did our herd’s TB come from?

same here, only closed for a lot longer, TB spoligotyped to that most commonly found in badgers.

 

[JP1]

Its Bovine TB. Sort your own house out first. What's wrong with inoculation of cows rather than murdering innocent badgers?

My own house is in order

I responded to the RSPCA questionnaire in a professional and objective manner

I want healthy cows and healthy badgers and to rid the Country of a Grade 3 pathogen

I'm doing my bit, what is your's? If you are a member of the voting public that allowed delay in the Benn era for more "science", you are actually part of my problem in that you have tacitly ignored the spread of bTB via wildlife vectors (estimated at 15 mile per year, that's 150 miles in 10 years)

How will your suggestion actually help healthy badgers' health ?

 

[organicguy]

Survey done, we should all do it, even if our results get cut! Cynic or what. Needs doing by the end of October.