Schmallenberg?

Discussion in 'Livestock & Forage' started by 5312, Dec 29, 2016.

  1. 5312

    5312 Member

    Just lambed a ewe, first lamb backwards with deformed legs. Second ok and healthy.

    Is it Schmallenberg? Sorry, rubbish photos.
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  2. Spartacus

    Spartacus Member

    Location:
    Lancaster
    How many you lambing? Where are you based? Always get some deformed, pre sbv it was one of those things, now every time there's one its a bit of a panic there could be more!
     
  3. woodston

    woodston New Member

    Location:
    Worcestershire
    Anyone else having problems with Schmallenberg? (sbv) We had it in 2012 nothing since, but we've been lambing since Christmas and 10% of the lambs have something wrong mainly fused legs. Lambing about 70 now and a similar number in March ( not scanned yet). I'd say it's definitely about!
     
  4. tepapa

    tepapa Member

    Location:
    North Wales
    Heard reports of cattle in cheshire infected and came across twin lambs yesterday joined with one head. Not mine but 3/4th this lambing. So we assume its in the area.
     
  5. gatepost

    gatepost Member

    Location:
    Cotswolds
    Had quite a few last yr, but all came back negative from lab although at post mortem they appeared clinical, subsequent bloods from ewes all negative as well?? this year no doubt something else.
     
  6. woodston

    woodston New Member

    Location:
    Worcestershire
    Did you find out what caused it last year? Took some upto the labs Friday, but not expecting the results until the end of the week, had two more since, elongated twisted neck and fused limbs
     
  7. sheep breeder

    sheep breeder Member

    Seemingly there are several different strains around, in 2012 blood samples were taken locally and tested negative and the second part of the sample was tested in Belgium and was positive.
    In 2012 we had a type where the ewes got sick and got down with no milk and we lost lambs and after 10 days the ewe recovered,
     
  8. gatepost

    gatepost Member

    Location:
    Cotswolds
    No some very strange lambs, least affected would have been badly undershot, worst, fused limbs, small heads. I assumed that there was something else lurking, so @sheep breeder , case of different strains might be behind it. We also had a very high barren rate although all ewes vac against all the usual. first ewes scanned ok this year so fingers crossed. interested to hear what the lab says about yours.
     
  9. gone up the hill

    Location:
    Devon
    We have had a couple with it so far and a neighbour has had 20+ lambs with it ( lambing at same time )

    Reports of dairy herds around the coast having quite a few cases as well.

    Nothing you can do as currently no vaccine apparently.
     
  10. bovine

    bovine Member

    Location:
    North
    That's not SBV........

    Zulvac is showing on the wholesaler catalogue but unless I try and order some I don't know if there is stock. No one bough any vaccine so I wouldn't be surprised if not discontinued.

    Heard of lots of suspected disease, but nothing lab confirmed. We've always seen these deformed animals, people seem to want to blame them all on SBV
     
  11. llamedos

    llamedos Staff Member

    Location:
    Oop North ish
    There were 2 confirmed cases in ROI

    Published Date: 2017-01-08 23:38:59
    Subject: PRO/SOAS> Schmallenberg virus - Europe: Ireland (Cork, Laois) bovine, reemergence
    Archive Number: 20170108.4748606

    Two separate cases of the Schmallenberg virus (SBV) infection have been confirmed in Ireland by the Department of Agriculture.

    The cases were found in aborted bovine foetuses, one submitted from Co. Cork and one from Co. Laois
     
  12. Water Wheel

    Water Wheel Member

    Will sending a bulk milk sample to AHVLA tell me anything about the Schmallenburg status of my herd ?
     
  13. bovine

    bovine Member

    Location:
    North
    Maybe.

    If positive then you have antibodies, but I don't know how long they last so we don't know when it happened.

    If negative then you don't have recent exposure but have a susceptible herd.

    When they first developed the milk antibody test all but 1 of our dairies tested went positive and we saw no real disease on the vast majority. I'm not sure what it tells you. We stopped testing herds after that.

    I'm more interested in testing individual suspect lambs or calves, that tells us its active.
     
  14. Water Wheel

    Water Wheel Member

    Thanks, I suppose I should have done one last spring so I would have had a reference point. I'll do one anyway , just curiosity.
     
  15. Water Wheel

    Water Wheel Member

    APHA Schmallenburg Elisa test results bulk milk sample

    S/P 145 % S/P > 40 % shown as positive
     
  16. bovine

    bovine Member

    Location:
    North
    So, what does that tell us?
     
  17. Water Wheel

    Water Wheel Member

    That the virus is still around or has been in the last year or two???
    I don't know how high the s/p figures go.
    That at least some of the cows have some resistance?
     
  18. bovine

    bovine Member

    Location:
    North
    We know they were exposed at some point, but it leave just as many questions as it answers!

    When I do a diagnostic test I want an answer to a question.
     
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  19. llamedos

    llamedos Staff Member

    Location:
    Oop North ish
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    While SBV is not a notifiable disease, to help confirm diagnosis during winter 2016/17, APHA may offer testing free of charge for suspect cases by prior arrangement with a Veterinary Investigation Officer. APHA VIC and non-APHA PME contact details can be found on GOV.UK.

    Source AHVLA
     
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  20. Blod

    Blod Member

    Location:
    E Carmarthenshire
    Mid Carmarthenshire here and mid January one of the vets said she had seen one Schmallenberg calving and plenty of lambs. Her view was it was about as she was seeing too many cases with classic deformities to put down to anything else. Obviously not feeding the info back to APHA though. :scratchhead:
     
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