SFI from a dairy perspective

[Derrick Hughes]

+1
happy to help organise!! @som farmer message me if you'd consider it (perhaps in June when there is something to see and some analyses from 1st cut).

Yes I for one would come

 

[Boysground]

Considering red clover in my italian silage mixtures, this ground is not grazed. What seed rate are people using? . I tend to go high with the italian about 17kg/ac

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[Wesley]

+1
happy to help organise!! @som farmer message me if you'd consider it (perhaps in June when there is something to see and some analyses from 1st cut).

I hear @Derrick Hughes will be sponsoring & providing pasties & other light refreshments for everyone…

 

[Beef farmer]

You should have the very first TFF Farm Walk , show us what you do there , you seem to prove it works , coming from a farmer some of these on here may start to believe

Il believe your 13me silage when I see the analysis.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Considering red clover in my italian silage mixtures, this ground is not grazed. What seed rate are people using? . I tend to go high with the italian about 17kg/ac

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Personally I would go Red Clover Hybrid Ryegrass ,it seems to compliment Red Clover , grazes better, 3 kg Red 10 Ryegrass

 

[Derrick Hughes]

I hear @Derrick Hughes will be sponsoring & providing pasties & other light refreshments for everyone…

I don't mind chipping in as long asi don't have to cook it

 

[Boysground]

Personally I would go Red Clover Hybrid Ryegrass ,it seems to compliment Red Clover , grazes better, 3 kg Red 10 Ryegrass

Would consider Hybrid, no grazing on any of these fields though. Do tend to dry up so max yeild off the first 2 cuts has worked well in the past. Subsequent cuts feed young stock so there is a little more flexibility. Recent weather conditions may favour the hybrid.

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[som farmer]

Would consider Hybrid, no grazing on any of these fields though. Do tend to dry up so max yeild off the first 2 cuts has worked well in the past. Subsequent cuts feed young stock so there is a little more flexibility. Recent weather conditions may favour the hybrid.

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recent weather would favour rice

last feb, we had 9mm of rain, 135mm so far this feb.

 

[In the pit]

recent weather would favour rice

last feb, we had 9mm of rain, 135mm so far this feb.

And on your dry/wet ground I expect your stream still isn’t running

 

[Boysground]

recent weather would favour rice

last feb, we had 9mm of rain, 135mm so far this feb.

I dont know whether I should give that a like or a sad face

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[som farmer]

And on your dry/wet ground I expect your stream still isn’t runnin

but reckon its had a good cleanout, flood water has done that, cheaper than a digger.

it was flooding fields making it about 30 metres wide, in the flash flooding last may, to completely dry in the summer.

and at present, we have no dry ground, and l preferred last feb to this, struggling to get any shite out, and lagoon is full.

but the local saying, is febuary fill dyke, well its bloody well full now'
it wasn't last year, and had a serious dry spell.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Would consider Hybrid, no grazing on any of these fields though. Do tend to dry up so max yeild off the first 2 cuts has worked well in the past. Subsequent cuts feed young stock so there is a little more flexibility. Recent weather conditions may favour the hybrid.

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If you want max yield early on then job to beat Italian and agree with the higher seed rate especially if its a Tetraploid
Some of the Festuloliums cope better with drought but won't be as early and cost a lot more

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Dairy SFI Sam 3 Production Mix

2.00 Federer Intermediate Tetraploid PRG

2.40 Meiduno Late Tetraploid

2.00 Toddington Late Perennial

2.00 Fojtan Festulolium

0.40 Meadow fescue

0.20 Timothy

0.05 Diceros Cocksfoot Soft Leaved

1.0 Red Clover

1.0 White clover

0.10 Leo Birdsfoot Trefoil

0.30 Chicory

0.40 Plantain

0.05 Yarrow

0.05 Burnet

0.05 Sheeps Parsley

12 kgs per acre

 

[som farmer]

Dairy SFI Sam 3 Production Mix

2.00 Federer Intermediate Tetraploid PRG

2.40 Meiduno Late Tetraploid

2.00 Toddington Late Perennial

2.00 Fojtan Festulolium

0.40 Meadow fescue

0.20 Timothy

0.05 Diceros Cocksfoot Soft Leaved

1.0 Red Clover

1.0 White clover

0.10 Leo Birdsfoot Trefoil

0.30 Chicory

0.40 Plantain

0.05 Yarrow

0.05 Burnet

0.05 Sheeps Parsley

12 kgs per acre

how much ?

 

[Derrick Hughes]

how much ?

Will work it out ,

I’ve maxed out the productive late ryegrass and Festulolium to the mx permitted 70%

Using minimal amounts of more traditional grasses to qualify for the 5 grasses rule.

I’ve increased the white and red clover part of the legumes

Also maxed out the more productive herbs in Plantain & Chicory.

 

[Kevtherev]

Would consider Hybrid, no grazing on any of these fields though. Do tend to dry up so max yeild off the first 2 cuts has worked well in the past. Subsequent cuts feed young stock so there is a little more flexibility. Recent weather conditions may favour the hybrid.

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Hybrid work very well BUT remember they can be short lived especially under intense cutting regimes.

 

[YELROM]

Put every grass acre here into sam3.
Will do our best to make it work.
Sfi is better than sfp ever was for us. Add some mid tier in too.

What seed mix are you going to use and are you going to just over seed this into your existing leys

 

[Beef farmer]

What seed mix are you going to use and are you going to just over seed this into your existing leys

I've a friend who sells seed, so will sit down and sink a few beers and make a mix. But plantain from experience is what suits us and this farm, so will be heavily centred around that.
Yes will be direct drilled into all existing lays