Single Market / Customs Union - A Tragic Loss

Pasty

Member
Location
Devon
Brexiteers don't read anything they sign. So nothing new here.

For example, that clown the BoE governor all upset about Euro clearing and derivatives being moved back to Euro land now = the uk is being "attacked" apparently
Shocked
. I understand his panic/upset because of the loss of billions weekly. However, the real question is - what exactly did he expect? You had that business DESPITE not being in the Euro, but because you were a leading financial hub and a EU member.

So when you announce you are no longer members and not only that, you're making-up your own financial regulations (as an EU competitor!) You think the EU will say - "You go right ahead and manage our multi-billion euro weekly business!!"?
When they don't they are attacking you !.
FFS - the EU will protect their money and their borders.

Same with the NI unionists - its staring them in the face, were told this (UK internal border) will (and should) happen - now in denial and its everybody else's fault (ie ROI and EU) - nothing apparently to do with them or Boris etc. Its actually mind-boggling logic, and fundamentally stupid!
#brexit, the gift that keeps on giving.
That's deeply insulting.
 

Raider112

Member
Brexiteers don't read anything they sign. So nothing new here.

For example, that clown the BoE governor all upset about Euro clearing and derivatives being moved back to Euro land now = the uk is being "attacked" apparently
Shocked
. I understand his panic/upset because of the loss of billions weekly. However, the real question is - what exactly did he expect? You had that business DESPITE not being in the Euro, but because you were a leading financial hub and a EU member.

So when you announce you are no longer members and not only that, you're making-up your own financial regulations (as an EU competitor!) You think the EU will say - "You go right ahead and manage our multi-billion euro weekly business!!"?
When they don't they are attacking you !.
FFS - the EU will protect their money and their borders.

Same with the NI unionists - its staring them in the face, were told this (UK internal border) will (and should) happen - now in denial and its everybody else's fault (ie ROI and EU) - nothing apparently to do with them or Boris etc. Its actually mind-boggling logic, and fundamentally stupid!
#brexit, the gift that keeps on giving.
Don't work yourself up about it, we don't so no need for you to. We're just farmers, no interest in that stuff.
 

Raider112

Member
I'm off this forum. You people are toxic. Bye.
Most people have backed off these threads to be honest, there's debate and then there's some that just want to spend every single day hunting out stuff to try to get a bite from and being far too intense about it. Nobody needs all that.
When posters are leaving because they are being hounded off something should be done about it.
 

czechmate

Member
Mixed Farmer
Most people have backed off these threads to be honest, there's debate and then there's some that just want to spend every single day hunting out stuff to try to get a bite from and being far too intense about it. Nobody needs all that.
When posters are leaving because they are being hounded off something should be done about it.

You’ll find a post from pasty some three or four weeks ago saying he was planning to leave !
I leave for some weeks/months sometimes, just leave though, don’t say anything about it🤫
 

le bon paysan

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin, France
Most people have backed off these threads to be honest, there's debate and then there's some that just want to spend every single day hunting out stuff to try to get a bite from and being far too intense about it. Nobody needs all that.
When posters are leaving because they are being hounded off something should be done about it.
Hounded off? Pasty! 🤣
 

le bon paysan

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin, France
Our friend LBP really does need a chill pill! His vitriol towards the UK is almost an obsession. I kind of feel sorry for him he’s so angry. There’s more to life than Brexit and the EU
Can't see the wood for the trees over there! But you keep looking where they tell you,as Boris trashes the UK's reputation . Biden,Sco Mo , Moody, Trudeau , Ahern all watching with interest👍
 

Hindsight

Member
Location
Lincolnshire
Can't see the wood for the trees over there! But you keep looking where they tell you,as Boris trashes the UK's reputation . Biden,Sco Mo , Moody, Trudeau , Ahern all watching with interest👍

I think we can spot a tree.

The issue is one of perspective, proportionality and depth.

The Protocol was agreed to protect the EU single market. But no one expected that would mean I now cannot send a single pot plant from Spalding to my long standing friend in Londonderry as I have once a year for 30 years. Or a lady in Belfast can no longer receive here favourite monthly organic food hamper due to additional admin and cost burden making the 'exporter' from mainland GB baulk at the idea of trading with another part of the sovereign GB. Or TESCO not sending Pork Pies available in Melton to Belfast

I can understand and appreciate if I were to be sending 20 ton shipping containers daily into the rest or EU27 by sending them via Belfast down into Eire and then a ferry to Roscoff for onward distribution through the EU27 at substantial price discounts to EU27 producers.

No LBP this is EU grandstanding politics. The EU driving a spike into the body of GB. Driving a wedge. Why - for spite and to act as a thinly veiled warning.

There you go - Plain and simple.

Best wishes,
 

le bon paysan

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin, France
I think we can spot a tree.

The issue is one of perspective, proportionality and depth.

The Protocol was agreed to protect the EU single market. But no one expected that would mean I now cannot send a single pot plant from Spalding to my long standing friend in Londonderry as I have once a year for 30 years. Or a lady in Belfast can no longer receive here favourite monthly organic food hamper due to additional admin and cost burden making the 'exporter' from mainland GB baulk at the idea of trading with another part of the sovereign GB. Or TESCO not sending Pork Pies available in Melton to Belfast

I can understand and appreciate if I were to be sending 20 ton shipping containers daily into the rest or EU27 by sending them via Belfast down into Eire and then a ferry to Roscoff for onward distribution through the EU27 at substantial price discounts to EU27 producers.

No LBP this is EU grandstanding politics. The EU driving a spike into the body of GB. Driving a wedge. Why - for spite and to act as a thinly veiled warning.

There you go - Plain and simple.

Best wishes,
It seems daft to me as well. I would have thought personal stuff would be exempt. I suppose staying in the customs union like TM wanted was to sensible. Why did the UK sign a deal they didn't want?
 

Martin Holden

Member
Trade
Location
Cheltenham
It seems daft to me as well. I would have thought personal stuff would be exempt. I suppose staying in the customs union like TM wanted was to sensible. Why did the UK sign a deal they didn't want?
Remaining in the customs Union and whatever other connotation thereof would simply have been the same as remaining. I have little doubt the EU really want the UK to collapse and fail but I have an inkling the world extends far beyond little old UK and EU. Agree the freedom of movement is a loss but you can’t have everything. Seems odd that the EU protective rules now mean that things grown in UK soil are toxic. Hey ho it’s a mad world we live in because of the few (politicians)!
 

Ncap

Member
I think we can spot a tree.

The issue is one of perspective, proportionality and depth.

The Protocol was agreed to protect the EU single market. But no one expected that would mean I now cannot send a single pot plant from Spalding to my long standing friend in Londonderry as I have once a year for 30 years. Or a lady in Belfast can no longer receive here favourite monthly organic food hamper due to additional admin and cost burden making the 'exporter' from mainland GB baulk at the idea of trading with another part of the sovereign GB. Or TESCO not sending Pork Pies available in Melton to Belfast

I can understand and appreciate if I were to be sending 20 ton shipping containers daily into the rest or EU27 by sending them via Belfast down into Eire and then a ferry to Roscoff for onward distribution through the EU27 at substantial price discounts to EU27 producers.

No LBP this is EU grandstanding politics. The EU driving a spike into the body of GB. Driving a wedge. Why - for spite and to act as a thinly veiled warning.

There you go - Plain and simple.

Best wishes,
Which bit of ,choosing to become a third country and thereby abiding by the rules we helped set up to apply to third countries is so hard to understand? It doesn’t matter whether it’s a pot plant or a whole bunch of pot plants (try the. Same arguments with the US or Australia if you like). When I was a roadie, there was always some arse trying to get in because they knew a friend of a friend or they were only going to stay for the first set. ‘Exceptionalism’, a specialist subject for uk politicians, is a rather ugly and a very stupid trait
 

czechmate

Member
Mixed Farmer
Which bit of ,choosing to become a third country and thereby abiding by the rules we helped set up to apply to third countries is so hard to understand? It doesn’t matter whether it’s a pot plant or a whole bunch of pot plants (try the. Same arguments with the US or Australia if you like). When I was a roadie, there was always some arse trying to get in because they knew a friend of a friend or they were only going to stay for the first set. ‘Exceptionalism’, a specialist subject for uk politicians, is a rather ugly and a very stupid trait


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