Slurry store

[dogglercowman1]

All advice would be very much appreciated...
I put in for the slurry storage grant last year and was not accepted... reason been we were not in target area.....2nd round we are further on but i imagine still not guaranteed success.
3 years ago i put in planning permission for store to be ready for when grant was launched and permission was granted.....but runs out december 24.
We are need more storage now...and if i pursue grant scheme i will have to carry on paying consultant for another 12 to 18months and may be lucky if i get grant aided store up and running before winter 25.
I am paying more money for 6 months storage tower when not legally needed and a lot of money on roof to get the grant....and plans were passed 3 yrs ago for smaller store of 5mths storage and no roof....so i would have to resubmit plans if i stick with the grant.
Or i can put new store up now in line with current planning application and have 5 months storage and not bother with grant and pay roughly the same as i was paying for bigger store with the roof.......

 

[Tarw Coch]

Is there much difference in size of a store for 6 months with a roof to 5 months without a roof?
The store without a roof would have to allow for rainwater over that area too.
What’s your slurry like to spread and how do you spread it? If using an umbilical, the extra rain water will make it easier to pump, thin slurry will pump quicker than thick slurry, it might be quicker/easier to pump with extra water, daftest thing out would be to put a roof in then have to add water.
Not sure what type of store you’re thinking but if you go for the 5 month option is it possible to make it extendable, if you’re committing to spending that sort of money, presumably you’re in it for the medium to longer term so there’s a good chance that you might one day keep more stock or the regulations will change so making it extendable will help future proof things.

 

[dogglercowman1]

The slurry tower that i have passed permission for is 70ft by 23ft...the other i had quotes for was nearly 90ft and 16 ft but the base cost was another 15000 ....i dont think i will expand anymore as we are stocked to our limit....so store at 22 weeks should be plenty sufficient....i just dont know whats best....there is still no guarantee i will get grant for store..but if i did but have to wait i would have be even better compliant .

 

[Hilly]

Whats cheapest way storing slurry ?

 

[Wesley]

Do some sums on a separator. Cost & how much extra capacity it could give you. It will give you a far better product to spread.
New planning applications for slurry storage around here can take up to 12 months. Natural England are causing lots of grief.

 

[pat kcotnit]

Whats cheapest way storing slurry ?

Lagoon. Pricing up at the moment for contractors. Concrete or metal stores easily twice the price.

 

[Werzle]

Mad that farmers have to have planning permission in place before moving futher forward with being accepted into the grant funding. Getting Planning and designing new slurry storage is a massive costly process to take on especially before being offered a grant to help build it. Cart before the horse in my opinion

 

[Cotlandfarmer]

Whats cheapest way storing slurry ?

Clay lined lagoon is by far the cheapest.

This will be 1/5 of the price of a tin tank.
BUT will catch a lot of rain water and not easily covered.

 

[Hilly]

Clay lined lagoon is by far the cheapest.

This will be 1/5 of the price of a tin tank.
BUT will catch a lot of rain water and not easily covered.

If no clay can use a limer ? Or do have to have clay ?

 

[Wesley]

If no clay can use a limer ? Or do have to have clay ?

Can use a liner or import clay

 

[Hilly]

Can use a liner or import clay

Cannyou buy clay l?

 

[Wesley]

Cannyou buy clay l?

Better than that. You can get paid to take it if you’re in the right location. Housing developments etc.

 

[Hilly]

Better than that. You can get paid to take it if you’re in the right location. Housing developments etc.

I wont be in the right location for that

 

[dogglercowman1]

We are on a flood plain and an ancient monument....if we go for a lagoon we will hit the water table and would have to line the lagoon and then drain off water from under liner which would be another headache.....and if we found any graves we would have to obtain a lisence to exhume and probally rebury.....its going to be problematic just to remove the topsoil for a tower and my only safe option for storage.

 

[Cotlandfarmer]

If no clay can use a limer ? Or do have to have clay ?

Plastic liner or clay lined.

Cannyou buy clay l?

Yes you can buy clay, I'm very very lucky here that there is a major road project on the go just a few miles away.

 

[Tarw Coch]

A big advantage of a tower is it’s pretty much impossible for cattle to get into and highly unlikely that kids can either if you take away the ladder, could make the extra cost of a tower seem insignificant if the worst were to happen

 

[Hilly]

A big advantage of a tower is it’s pretty much impossible for cattle to get into and highly unlikely that kids can either if you take away the ladder, could make the extra cost of a tower seem insignificant if the worst were to happen

I used to hide the ladder to mine whenkids were little , it used to scare me … and that was tower not lagoon. Have to have security fencing around a lagoon surely .

 

[Blue.]

We are on a flood plain and an ancient monument....if we go for a lagoon we will hit the water table and would have to line the lagoon and then drain off water from under liner which would be another headache.....and if we found any graves we would have to obtain a lisence to exhume and probally rebury.....its going to be problematic just to remove the topsoil for a tower and my only safe option for storage.

Could you not have brought clay/fill in and build the banks up?

 

[dogglercowman1]

It would cover the flood plain issue but as we graze the best location for the lagoon would not have been the best with access to pasture problems because of where it would be....really not sure what to do for the best but we only have 2 weeks storage at the moment and it gets harder every year to manage....especially this yr!

 

[Blue.]

It would cover the flood plain issue but as we graze the best location for the lagoon would not have been the best with access to pasture problems because of where it would be....really not sure what to do for the best but we only have 2 weeks storage at the moment and it gets harder every year to manage....especially this yr!

Can you put a lagoon in the centre of the farm?

I replaced a tower with a lagoon,I’m now going to replace the lagoon with a bigger one more central in the farm.