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Pasty

Member
Location
Devon
So, as I gather, Twitter, Facebook and Instagram have banned Trump from posting either temporarily or permanently. Thoughts on this? If you don't like him you may think its superb news. But then, what if they suddenly decide they don't like you? Like this forum where we may get a bit heated but have a laugh in the end? Personally I find this very disturbing. In our town we have a thing called ways with words where speakers come from all over the world and talk about whatever. Kate Adie who I am sure is probably left of center came down many years ago to argue for free speech in that you should have the right to make a fool of or hang yourself by your words. The gods of social media, a couple wierdos, have decided that is no longer the case. Shadow banning, de-monetising on Ytube etc.

You may hate Trump, you may not but is the most powerful man in the world not allowed a voice on the net? If he's not then what hope do you have? You can be silenced and disappeared any time they like.

I am personally removing myself from all these platforms. It's disgusting in my view and I want nothing to do with it.
 

Pasty

Member
Location
Devon
I guess we are all allowed knives...
Until, we start cutting people
Not really. A normal UK citizen can't carry a lock knife of any size. I take a chainsaw instead even though I am allowed to carry a lock knife as I have a CPH number. I also have a leaf blower and an atom bomb in the truck just in case it kicks off in Lidl.
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
So, as I gather, Twitter, Facebook and Instagram have banned Trump from posting either temporarily or permanently. Thoughts on this? If you don't like him you may think its superb news. But then, what if they suddenly decide they don't like you? Like this forum where we may get a bit heated but have a laugh in the end? Personally I find this very disturbing. In our town we have a thing called ways with words where speakers come from all over the world and talk about whatever. Kate Adie who I am sure is probably left of center came down many years ago to argue for free speech in that you should have the right to make a fool of or hang yourself by your words. The gods of social media, a couple wierdos, have decided that is no longer the case. Shadow banning, de-monetising on Ytube etc.

You may hate Trump, you may not but is the most powerful man in the world not allowed a voice on the net? If he's not then what hope do you have? You can be silenced and disappeared any time they like.

I am personally removing myself from all these platforms. It's disgusting in my view and I want nothing to do with it.

I would agree that a permanent ban is out of order (and I think he is an increasingly unhinged megalomaniac), but there must surely be a way to curb the deranged rantings of someone that appears to incite criminal activity. A month’s ban, as they regularly impose on folk that try to sell livestock, would be plenty to clip wings I would have thought, if it only takes the heat out of the situation temporarily.
 

Pasty

Member
Location
Devon
I would agree that a permanent ban is out of order (and I think he is an increasingly unhinged megalomaniac), but there must surely be a way to curb the deranged rantings of someone that appears to incite criminal activity. A month’s ban, as they regularly impose on folk that try to sell livestock, would be plenty to clip wings I would have thought, if it only takes the heat out of the situation temporarily.

Seems permanent though and there are many tales of youtube channels being hidden, demonetised if that is even a word and so on. The reason I bring it up is that it's all great when it's going your way and the 'bad guys' are being shut up but what about when that changes? I totally believe in free speech. Often makes me look like an idiot. Good. We must not let a few individuals decide what we can see and hear on any form of media. If someone comes out and says kill all black people, white people, Muslims, Christians, that is a criminal offence in most countries. Try them and jail them. Silencing people is never going to lead to a peaceful conclusion IMHO.
 
I would agree that a permanent ban is out of order (and I think he is an increasingly unhinged megalomaniac), but there must surely be a way to curb the deranged rantings of someone that appears to incite criminal activity. A month’s ban, as they regularly impose on folk that try to sell livestock, would be plenty to clip wings I would have thought, if it only takes the heat out of the situation temporarily.

Trump banned but the Ayatollah of Iran and North Korea's leader King Jong-Un allowed free rein............just confirms what we already knew.
The Elites who control the media in America are consumed with hate for President Trump...(even before he became president)

I guess they see that as their privilege but it does not bode well for the future.........the thought police seem to be taking over.
 

le bon paysan

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin, France
So, as I gather, Twitter, Facebook and Instagram have banned Trump from posting either temporarily or permanently. Thoughts on this? If you don't like him you may think its superb news. But then, what if they suddenly decide they don't like you? Like this forum where we may get a bit heated but have a laugh in the end? Personally I find this very disturbing. In our town we have a thing called ways with words where speakers come from all over the world and talk about whatever. Kate Adie who I am sure is probably left of center came down many years ago to argue for free speech in that you should have the right to make a fool of or hang yourself by your words. The gods of social media, a couple wierdos, have decided that is no longer the case. Shadow banning, de-monetising on Ytube etc.

You may hate Trump, you may not but is the most powerful man in the world not allowed a voice on the net? If he's not then what hope do you have? You can be silenced and disappeared any time they like.

I am personally removing myself from all these platforms. It's disgusting in my view and I want nothing to do with it.
Think of twitter as a Christian bakery,
And Trump as a gay wedding cake!
 

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
I just wish someone would ban Twitter, faceache, instagram and all the other social media nonsense.


But banning old trumpy isn't going to help matters, its just going to encourage all the nut bars to come up with more conspiracy theories.
I imagine after he's gone from the Whitehouse they'll let him back on.
 
I just wish someone would ban Twitter, faceache, instagram and all the other social media nonsense.
Good point, I notice that some people who use social networks a great deal find it tough to carry out a good conversation..........your thoughts'

But banning old trumpy isn't going to help matters, its just going to encourage all the nut bars to come up with more conspiracy theories.
I imagine after he's gone from the Whitehouse they'll let him back on.
 

Highland Mule

Member
Livestock Farmer
So what about all those websites that encourage kids to become anorexic or commit suicide - should they be allowed free rein too? And the Islamic radicalisation sites and accounts?

No, I’m not saying Trump did either of those things, but I do think a line needs drawn somewhere, and if they think he crossed it then as it’s their sandpit...
 

Mark Hatton

Staff Member
Media
Location
Yorkshire
Social media platforms, like many other aspects in life have a set of terms and conditions you agree to when signing up to them. How many of us actually read all of small print in contained in them? Pretty sure somewhere in the T&Cs it will state that they can delete inappropriate content and impose bans on users for not adhering to those terms and conditions. I just surprised he got away with it as long as he did!
 

arcobob

Member
Location
Norfolk
Plenty of people have been banned from social media, gaoled or even deported for inciting civil unrest and hatred. Most of the people on here would have supported such actions that have taken place in the past in this country. Such cases that have occurred in this country have largely involved extreme religious cranks but if a person with extreme power or influence decided to incite violence he would be put where his voice was not heard and rightly so.
In the case of Trump it is up to the individual to decide whether such a point has been reached. I have an open mind but freedom of speech is not sacrosanct to the extent that allows incitement to law breaking and extreme violence. There is also a distinction between the written word and the spoken word.
 

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Written by William Kellett from Agriland

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The Health and Safety Executive for Northern Ireland (HSENI) alongside the Farm Safety Partnership (FSP), has named new farm safety champions and commended the outstanding work on farm safety that has been carried out in the farming community in the last 20 years.

Two of these champions are Malcom Downey, retired principal inspector for the Agri/Food team in HSENI and Harry Sinclair, current chair of the Farm Safety Partnership and former president of the Ulster Farmers’ Union (UFU).

Improving farm safety is the key aim of HSENI’s and the FSP’s work and...
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