Springs or bogies?

[Thomas5060]

They're a road tyre, I wouldn't take those or super singles into a field

The 400x16 will be the best for you, we use our woods with them tyres on it as a dump trailer, been here 10 years and not much tyre bother

 

[Boohoo]

The 400x16 will be the best for you, we use our woods with them tyres on it as a dump trailer, been here 10 years and not much tyre bother

Have you still got the Kane? If so how does the floor height compare to the Woods? I'm told 500s add at least 3 inches compared to 400s

 

[Chuckie]

They're a road tyre, I wouldn't take those or super singles into a field

They are, but I think there won't be much difference in the field because they are a bit taller and wider, but the biggest plus would be the longevity.

You can get 500/50r17 radial but they won't be cheap!

 

[Thomas5060]

Have you still got the Kane? If so how does the floor height compare to the Woods? I'm told 500s add at least 3 inches compared to 400s

Yes still have the Kane. Yea it’s rather high compared to the woods as it’s on 500s. Might have a picture that shows the difference

 

[ollandroverman]

They are, but I think there won't be much difference in the field because they are a bit taller and wider, but the biggest plus would be the longevity.

You can get 500/50r17 radial but they won't be cheap!

They are night and day worse when the going gets tender.
My trailer on 400 x 15 's comes out when the 435 x 19.5 stop travelling.
The 435 x 19.5 are a stiff, high pressure and square edged road tyre that cuts straight through the surface and sinks when off road. Fantastic on road though!

 

[Chuckie]

They are night and day worse when the going gets tender.
My trailer on 400 x 15 's comes out when the 435 x 19.5 stop travelling.
The 435 x 19.5 are a stiff, high pressure and square edged road tyre that cuts straight through the surface and sinks when off road. Fantastic on road though!

They aren't that bad. If flotation is the primary concern then 560 22.5 are what's needed.

 

[Boohoo]

They aren't that bad. If flotation is the primary concern then 560 22.5 are what's needed.

It's a 9 ton trailer! Four 560/45r22.5s would be a bit over the top.

 

[tinman]

Want a low floor height for loading small bales of hay by hand and also because our digger doesn't lift that high without spilling everything out of the bucket.
We aren't on dry land but we stay off it when it's wet and are used to a 6ton single axle on 12.5x15.3s so 400s should be an improvement. I'll check with the manufacturer about what tyres they're fitting but I'm sure they'll be up to it as they're not known for cutting corners.

Fair enough, i understand.
would 3" make that much difference in the height for small bales of hay seeing since once you get so far up with hay your throwing it up anyways.
or the digger for that matter.
would it cost much more to go 8 stud for the better braking efficiency over 6 stud.
i know your trying to keep costs down but another few hundred might be well spent in the long run to me but whatever you go with i wish you health to wear.

 

[Boohoo]

Another manufacturer offers 8 stud axles with 500/50r17s and it adds £1000 to the price.

 

[KennyO]

We have an old 8t Marshall on 6 stud axles with springs. It is not fun tipping muck out of it on a slightly unlevel site. Our 10t on bogeys is solid as a rock when tipping.

I would take bogeys unless going for commercial spec springs.

 

[Chuckie]

Another manufacturer offers 8 stud axles with 500/50r17s and it adds £1000 to the price.

That will look like a bargain in the long run.

 

[Boohoo]

That will look like a bargain in the long run.

You have to stop adding options at some point. For all the trailer is likely to do I think we'll be alright on 6 stud axles and 400s.

 

[dunkie]

The xmas tree Farm we haul field pallets for has 4 trailers with tyres the same as you are getting, 2 have springs 2 boggies, same manufacturer, the sprung ones drag through the mire better as the boggies front wheels lock up dragging brash , the sprung one never.

 

[Lincsman]

The xmas tree Farm we haul field pallets for has 4 trailers with tyres the same as you are getting, 2 have springs 2 boggies, same manufacturer, the sprung ones drag through the mire better as the boggies front wheels lock up dragging brash , the sprung one never.

You need offset bogies so the front carry less weight and climb out of the soil, wootton used to do them all like that.

 

[rjjeng]

In North/Mid wales our ground is not exactly flat !!
A large load of bales on a trailer with springs and it sways like you think the damn thing is going to fall over.
If you are going with springs would it be possible to spec extra heavy duty anti roll bars?
The next door neighbour had a marshal silage trailer on springs and only run it a year before buying a conversion kit and changing it to bogeys.
A good point was also made about when unhooked the centre pivot point on the trailer with springs is a good couple of feet further forward, I've seen trailers runaway whilst being loaded or unloaded when they were relying on the skid to be the brake.

 

[Boohoo]

The xmas tree Farm we haul field pallets for has 4 trailers with tyres the same as you are getting, 2 have springs 2 boggies, same manufacturer, the sprung ones drag through the mire better as the boggies front wheels lock up dragging brash , the sprung one never.

Interesting comparison and the opposite of what most people say about bogies being better on soft ground

 

[Angus]

What ply rating are the tyres please, Angus? @ollandroverman.

 

[Lincsman]

Interesting comparison and the opposite of what most people say about bogies being better on soft ground

Depends on the bogie... see above

 

[7610 super q]

OK, I give up, what's a bogey ? Not something you find in your nose , surely ?

 

[Brisel]

Solid beam between the axles on a pivot.