Standen Rapide single row harvester
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Invest in a large tin of copperslip, and put a dab on the threads of EVERY nut and bolt you undo and re-do up, as I guarantee you will be undoing it again soon. Same dab of copaslip on the shaft running through a bearing.
A good digging chain web is the secret for a nicer life. Buy drive chain in bulk. Cultivate your local Bearing suppliers, as you will see a lot of them.
Far too many years experience of running them. Best decision I made, was to get a mate to get his Dad down with a 6 row Matrot.
A good digging chain web is the secret for a nicer life. Buy drive chain in bulk. Cultivate your local Bearing suppliers, as you will see a lot of them.
Far too many years experience of running them. Best decision I made, was to get a mate to get his Dad down with a 6 row Matrot.
Lincs Lass
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- Location
- north lincs
The single row cyclone certainly tested the patients of many .
They had a strange habit of dropping the rear chain of in a heap ,just as it turned dark or when it was freezing cold .
They had a strange habit of dropping the rear chain of in a heap ,just as it turned dark or when it was freezing cold .
... and you needed a load ready for the Factory at 8am on the following morning!
hoyboy
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Changing bearings was to be expected. I seem to be spending as much time unjamming stones from the webs as I do actually lifting anything with it. Not big stones, small ones that get between the webs and jam it. How many acres a day would you expect to do with one of these?
I'm lifting neeps that are sown on the flat. Part of an agri environment option, can't start using them until 1st march. Pretty much all of march was too wet to get on the land and now in a panic to shift them to make way for spring barley.
I'm lifting neeps that are sown on the flat. Part of an agri environment option, can't start using them until 1st march. Pretty much all of march was too wet to get on the land and now in a panic to shift them to make way for spring barley.
solo
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- Location
- worcestershire
I would get a contractor in to shift them quickly.
Stones were a big cause of digging chain breaks when we had one especially when the links wore thin. Griff chains in Dudley grew a whole business on the back of these machines before continental webbs came in. Sandy abrasive soils didn’t help. 40t would be a good day with no stoppages. Half that was more likely. Plenty of time spent on the end of a bar poking stones. Once the staff retired I spent a day on it., saw the light, and then got a contractor in with either an armour belt lift single row which removed the need for stone picking, and did about 70t/ day or a six row tanker that could fill the yard with 600t providing I could keep up with an 18t trailer!
I didn’t get all nostalgic the day i dragged it to the scrap yard.
Stones were a big cause of digging chain breaks when we had one especially when the links wore thin. Griff chains in Dudley grew a whole business on the back of these machines before continental webbs came in. Sandy abrasive soils didn’t help. 40t would be a good day with no stoppages. Half that was more likely. Plenty of time spent on the end of a bar poking stones. Once the staff retired I spent a day on it., saw the light, and then got a contractor in with either an armour belt lift single row which removed the need for stone picking, and did about 70t/ day or a six row tanker that could fill the yard with 600t providing I could keep up with an 18t trailer!
I didn’t get all nostalgic the day i dragged it to the scrap yard.
spin cycle
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- Location
- north norfolk
so did I....but we hadn't got today's pressures ....if you got beet out you were ok
...no other bullpoo miss the sound of it on a crisp Oct day
I've a notion that wear on plates near chain start exacerbated stones
A Trebor
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- Location
- Isle of Axholme
What model ?
Share or opel wheel
Spent many days on one and some nights
Output anywhere up to 3.5 acres but often only 1
Once did 5 1/2 acre on own but that was a 28 hour shift on frost
Share or opel wheel
Spent many days on one and some nights
Output anywhere up to 3.5 acres but often only 1
Once did 5 1/2 acre on own but that was a 28 hour shift on frost
When I arrived here in 1976, the harvesting was still being done with an open Fordson Major. The first 2wd Zetor (with cab) made life much more pleasant, and the 4wd drive that arrived in about 1981-2 transformed the job even on narrow wheels.
The problem was too much time spent outside fettling the thing. Many a time the bloke who worked here would arrive in the stackyard at 4pm and inform me that it needed some work.... before morning. Another night under the meagre light in the yard stripping something down, before going off in the morning to Bearing Co or worse, into Burgess in Shrewsbury.
- Location
- East Anglia
Oh the memories!
I spent most of my youth either operating one attached to first a IH 574, then a Ford 4000, IH 784 and lastly an early bubble cab Ford 6610 - all 2wd. If not operating I was trailering away or worst still clearing up beet tops (by fork into a trailer) left by the blessed top saver. If you think the web chains on the harvester are poor you don't know nothing until you have experienced the thinner versions used of the top saver!!
Opening out the field was an operation in itself, we would generally flail off the tops from 3 rows with a Taarup side mount single cut forager, giving us topped rows to open out. Once those rows were lifted I had to walk around tripping the top saver box for the first round so the trip paddle had something to strike next time around. This (hopefully) resulted in neat diagonal rows of tops across the field, however it was more often not the case!
I spent most of my youth either operating one attached to first a IH 574, then a Ford 4000, IH 784 and lastly an early bubble cab Ford 6610 - all 2wd. If not operating I was trailering away or worst still clearing up beet tops (by fork into a trailer) left by the blessed top saver. If you think the web chains on the harvester are poor you don't know nothing until you have experienced the thinner versions used of the top saver!!
Opening out the field was an operation in itself, we would generally flail off the tops from 3 rows with a Taarup side mount single cut forager, giving us topped rows to open out. Once those rows were lifted I had to walk around tripping the top saver box for the first round so the trip paddle had something to strike next time around. This (hopefully) resulted in neat diagonal rows of tops across the field, however it was more often not the case!
- Location
- East meath/dublin
Probably the fairest view off the poor rapide ...
The men who worked them first probably thought the were a godsend compared to topping and handballing the beet into a trailer .
The mechanical drive Armers were also guaranteed to put a lad in the mental on a bad day ... if the threw the belts it was sheer number drudgery you soon learnt to wet them with washing up liquid before starting each morning and not to bull it on ....
Everything evolves with experience and faults get ironed out.
hoyboy
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Maybe I'm expecting too much from it! I reckon I could see 3 to 4 acre a day with no breakdowns so in reality it's 2 acre a day. Mines is a Rapide mk 3a opal wheel lifter, no idea what age it is. I took the top cutter off it as I'm lifting neeps and not bothered if they come in with the top on. When lifting in January to March, there is nothing on them then anyway but now they have grown a fair bit of a top. Makes them bunch up on the cleaning web and sticky to empty the tank completely.
We used to grow on ridges and lift with a spinning wheel type thing that threw them right onto an elevator into a trailer along side. I think it was a Danish built thing, it worked away alright, probably faster than the standen, lift two 24 inch rows. Not sure if a thing like that would work lifting off the flat though. Are there other tanker machines out there that might be less problematic with the stones? Don't really want to go to some huge monster of a a thing that'll get bogged in soft ground either.
We used to grow on ridges and lift with a spinning wheel type thing that threw them right onto an elevator into a trailer along side. I think it was a Danish built thing, it worked away alright, probably faster than the standen, lift two 24 inch rows. Not sure if a thing like that would work lifting off the flat though. Are there other tanker machines out there that might be less problematic with the stones? Don't really want to go to some huge monster of a a thing that'll get bogged in soft ground either.
One I used was shares and we extended the main web to take trash over the back of the tank
and then they started making them like that (or we copied what they did more likely can’t remember)
My Late Uncle, insisted on our "opening up" the first row, by topping with a spade, throwing the top in the next row!
When I purchased a Browns straw chopper that would also work as a flail, then I stopped that PDQ
Good luck with that...