Stock fence value after 12 months

[Lazy Sod]

The OP still hasn't told us what the quality of the posts were. The quality of the answers to his question depends on that.

 

[livestock 1]

There’s one year of its life and everything probably has gone up since last year so £7 per m

 

[Lazy Eric]

You don’t have to take it down, a friend is taking land after you,I’m guessing landlord been good with you? Let’s be fair to all parties concerned. 5 quid a meter . Or price of the Materials used.

 

[livestock 1]

You don’t have to take it down, a friend is taking land after you,I’m guessing landlord been good with you? Let’s be fair to all parties concerned. 5 quid a meter . Or price of the Materials used.

That reckoning means the fence will be worth £1 per meter in 3 years time

 

[flinty123]

If its timber fencing it will become a liability within 4 years, it will be shot

 

[tepapa]

I've two opinions on this.

If it's just standard tanalised timber without any 15yr guarantee then it's probably worth what you paid and also worth nothing at the same time.

If I was the landlord or new tenant I wouldn't want to to pay you anything for a tanalised fence that will become a liability in 3-4yrs time.

I assume it's worth more in rent to the landlord if fenced but the tennant will get the shitty end of the deal when they are forced to maintain/replace for the duration of the tenancy. Although I do see the benefit to cash flow and stock management to the tenant to have it fenced from the off set.

Possibly the landlord has agreed to fence it to begin with and this is a cheap way to get it fenced for them and then pass the liability onto the tennant

 

[tepapa]

That reckoning means the fence will be worth £1 per meter in 3 years time

That's about right, the value of the wire for someone with the time to strip it off the posts to reuse.

 

[Ffermer Bach]

21 years ago we still had CCA wood treatment, and fences put up then would indeed have a life expectancy of 20 years plus. I've got fences my father put up 30 years ago with CCA treated timber and they are still OK, with an odd replacement post here and there. But the current timber won't last a decade, it'll be largely shot by 7-8 years. I know because in 2009 I did a whole load of fencing using 'treated' timber that all had to be replaced about 4 years ago. If you've got cattle pushing on the posts then they'll be breaking even sooner. No one in their right mind should pay £7/m for a treated timber fence, its throwing money down the drain.

And yet I am surprised at the amount of treated timber fencing I see erected. Very rarely do I see creosoted fences put up (or chestnut for that matter). I am perplexed to be honest.

Any fencing done here will be either creosoted, chestnut, robina or clippex from now on.

If I was on rented ground, I would put up semi permanent electric with HT wire, that I could roll up again and re use, with fibreglass posts.

 

[Ffermer Bach]

That's about right, the value of the wire for someone with the time to strip it off the posts to reuse.

I was talking to a fencing contractor the other day, and he said it costs the client more in labour to re use old wire, than the cost of buying new wire.

 

[tepapa]

I was talking to a fencing contractor the other day, and he said it costs the client more in labour to re use old wire, than the cost of buying new wire.

Ye I can quite well believe it. I charge more too but never worked it out against cost of new . As long as I cover the extra time it takes a to join rolls and repair broken wires then I'm not worried to resume stuff.

 

[daveydiesel1]

And yet I am surprised at the amount of treated timber fencing I see erected. Very rarely do I see creosoted fences put up (or chestnut for that matter). I am perplexed to be honest.

Any fencing done here will be either creosoted, chestnut, robina or clippex from now on.

If I was on rented ground, I would put up semi permanent electric with HT wire, that I could roll up again and re use, with fibreglass posts.

What breed of timber is in octoposts? We cant get them here now because of creosote being banned in ni

 

[czechmate]

Did have a 2 acre meadow refenced last jan and I mentioned to the man who done it about the newer posts not lasting.he used I think beech posts which he said would outlast the pine type posts by several years.they seem very hard compared to what’s been used in the past.only refenced meadow due to stewardship scheme.be interesting to

here, posts are either chestnut or acacia. Chestnut have a good life but I have tried some acacia… I think of myself as reasonably skilled with a hammer but it’s about impossible to knock staples in a lot of the time

 

[Ffermer Bach]

What breed of timber is in octoposts? We cant get them here now because of creosote being banned in ni

I have no idea, the fence and forget I believe come from the Baltic states or Finland. The problem that occured after Russia invaded Ukraine, was the posts came to the UK via Russia, so were hit by the embargo. Fence and forget are now machined posts from Finland I believe (and creosoted in Newport)

 

[daveydiesel1]

I have no idea, the fence and forget I believe come from the Baltic states or Finland. The problem that occured after Russia invaded Ukraine, was the posts came to the UK via Russia, so were hit by the embargo. Fence and forget are now machined posts from Finland I believe (and creosoted in Newport)

What priceu paying for posts and what price is clipex?

 

[Ffermer Bach]

What priceu paying for posts and what price is clipex?

posts must be about £6 each now, no idea clipex, look on the McVee Parker website.

 

[crashbox]

Hello. We erected 1800 metres of stockfencing on some rented ground. Said we were happy to take remove it at the end of the term if needs be, it was only a short term let. Landlords want to pay us for the fencing instead of us removing it. It’s only been up 12 months and cost about £7/m for materials and erection. What value would people put on it now? Landlords don’t want to pay much if they can help it but I’d rather not remove it as new tenant is a friend and it’s a bit unfair on him I’d say.
I thought maybe £4/m was being very fair to the landlords ? Many thanks

What is the life expectancy of the fence/posts?

Use depreciation to get to your figure.

 

[Exfarmer]

Did have a 2 acre meadow refenced last jan and I mentioned to the man who done it about the newer posts not lasting.he used I think beech posts which he said would outlast the pine type posts by several years.they seem very hard compared to what’s been used in the past.only refenced meadow due to stewardship scheme.be interesting to

Very much doubt they are beech Nick, or you would be replacing them before now

 

[glasshouse]

That reckoning means the fence will be worth £1 per meter in 3 years time

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Hello. We erected 1800 metres of stockfencing on some rented ground. Said we were happy to take remove it at the end of the term if needs be, it was only a short term let. Landlords want to pay us for the fencing instead of us removing it. It’s only been up 12 months and cost about £7/m for materials and erection. What value would people put on it now? Landlords don’t want to pay much if they can help it but I’d rather not remove it as new tenant is a friend and it’s a bit unfair on him I’d say.
I thought maybe £4/m was being very fair to the landlords ? Many thanks

strange setup?
You spend 1200 quid on a fence on a short term let.
Now a “friend “ has the land?
Even stranger, landlord offering to buy frnce.
Charge him £8/m as it would cost £10/m today

 

[Bairdy]

Not helping answer your question but how did you managed to put in an entirely new fence Inc labour for £7 a meter a year ago? Looking at costings and quotes I seem to be looking at something closer to £10/m

My exact thoughts as well.

 

[livestock 1]

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strange setup?
You spend 1200 quid on a fence on a short term let.
Now a “friend “ has the land?
Even stranger, landlord offering to buy frnce.
Charge him £8/m as it would cost £10/m today

Well that was part of my reckoning. Everything is only worth what someone is willing to pay.