Stores - Cheap ?

[buttercup]

S o took some Chx beef stores ( 8-10 months) from their mothers and sold at local market (some 60 miles away), and reckon that they were down £150-200. Indeed everything was down some LIm X (12-14 months) sold at about 900, last year I reckon about £1200.

Was this just a bad day ?? one sage was saying the dead price is falling due to the B-Thing is going to last ?

 

[gone up the hill]

S o took some Chx beef stores ( 8-10 months) from their mothers and sold at local market (some 60 miles away), and reckon that they were down £150-200. Indeed everything was down some LIm X (12-14 months) sold at about 900, last year I reckon about £1200.

Was this just a bad day ?? one sage was saying the dead price is falling due to the B-Thing is going to last ?

This is covered in depth over the last 20/30 or so pages on the beef/lamb price tracker thread @buttercup .

But basically prime cattle are now down some £200/250 head on 12 months ago and store cattle and especially stirks/ calves have been badly hit price wise as a result.

Things are very unlikely to improve until the Brexit issue is sorted out and how long that will be is anyone's guess!

 

[HarryB97]

We sell all our stores privatley and are currently getting nearly £150 pound less per head than a year ago, all sold pence per kilo. Love the job but currently a complete waste of time

 

[AndrewM]

http://beefandlamb.ahdb.org.uk/markets/deadweight-cattle-reports/

probably worth keeping an eye on the dead weight prices even if you only sell stores, you wont be in fore such a surprise next time.

 

[Wooly]

Our local market barely gets finished cattle over £1000 at the moment.

Where do you think the profit will come from if you want £1200 for 12 month store cattle , let alone a £900 one !?!

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Our local market barely gets finished cattle over £1000 at the moment.

!

That’s a very poor price...What weights and ppk?

 

[pine_guy]

S o took some Chx beef stores ( 8-10 months) from their mothers and sold at local market (some 60 miles away), and reckon that they were down £150-200. Indeed everything was down some LIm X (12-14 months) sold at about 900, last year I reckon about £1200.

Was this just a bad day ?? one sage was saying the dead price is falling due to the B-Thing is going to last ?

What they said

 

[holly smoke]

 

[Northeastfarmer]

I bet they’re a fortune

 

[holly smoke]

I bet they’re a fortune

Probably and the suckler sale a week later will be even more I would have thought

 

[Smith31]

Our local market barely gets finished cattle over £1000 at the moment.

Where do you think the profit will come from if you want £1200 for 12 month store cattle , let alone a £900 one !?!

Rather then spending money buying feed for stock, some farmers really need to take a step back and spend a bit on a new calculator.

I was at a store sale this week and was left scratching my head and debating with myself, how some farmers were making any money on some stock which was sold. They would have been better off leaving the sheds empty.

 

[Wooly]

That’s a very poor price...What weights and ppk?

Market report from last week.

Finished cattle averages – pence per kg
Classification	No	Top	Bottom	Average
Heavy bulls (over 650kg)	1	99.5	99.5	99.5
Light steers (370 – 550kg)	1	153.5	153.5	153.5
Medium steers (551 – 650 kg)	10	179.5	148.5	162.7
Heavy steers (over 650kg)	1	151.5	151.5	151.5
Light heifers (330 – 500 kg)	5	185.5	127.5	164.5
Medium heifers (501 – 590kg)	14	189.5	154.5	176.2
Heavy heifers (over 590kg)	2	163.5	141.5	152.5

Leading steer prices
Producer	Weight	Age and breed	P per kg	Gross £
R G Wood	590	18 mths Limousin	180.0	1062
R G Wood	570	20 mths Parthenaise	178.0	1015
R G Wood	565	20 mths Parthenaise	176.0	994
J A & P M Playfoot & Sons Ltd	570	30 mths Aberdeen Angus	170.0	969
H G Tompsett & Sons	615	26 mths Sussex	158.0	972
Leading heifer prices
W Alexander (Shoreham)	540	21 mths British Blue	190.0	1026
W S Furnival (Brookland)	535	19 mths Limousin	187.0	1000
W S Fuenival (Brookland	514	19 mths Limousin	187.0	961
A J Thompson & Sons	490	17 mths Limousin	186.0	911
W S Furnival (Brookland)	510	18 mths Limousin	186.0	949

 

[Agrivator]

St Boswells, Scottish Borders, last Monday, They will have been mainly Limousin cross, and bnought by butchers. But at the same sale, anything with Angus, other native breeds and to a lesser extent Simmental and Charolais, would be well discounted.

Clean Cattle per head: Mosstower £1408.64, Wester Middleton £1383.80, Lennoxlove £1356.60, Penston £1349.92, Mosstower £1313.28, Lennoxlove £1305.72, Upper Nisbet £1284.80, Lennoxlove £1278.72, Upper Nisbet £1272.64, £1218, Faughhill £1189.76

Clean Cattle per kilo: Mosstower 248p J.Gilmour & Co Ltd, Lennoxlove 238p Shaw Fine Meats, Penston 236p J.Gilmour & Co Ltd, Lennoxlove 234p Forsyths of Peebles, Wester Ulston 232p J.Gilmour & Co Ltd, Faughhill 228p J.F Finlay & Co Ltd, Mosstower 228p J.Gilmour & Co Ltd, Penston 227p, 226p J.Gilmour & Co Ltd, Upper Nisbet 226p Forsyths of Peebles, 220p Shaw Fine Meats, 210p J & J Mather, Faughhill 208p J.F Finlay & Co Ltd

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Market report from last week.

Finished cattle averages – pence per kg
Classification	No	Top	Bottom	Average
Heavy bulls (over 650kg)	1	99.5	99.5	99.5
Light steers (370 – 550kg)	1	153.5	153.5	153.5
Medium steers (551 – 650 kg)	10	179.5	148.5	162.7
Heavy steers (over 650kg)	1	151.5	151.5	151.5
Light heifers (330 – 500 kg)	5	185.5	127.5	164.5
Medium heifers (501 – 590kg)	14	189.5	154.5	176.2
Heavy heifers (over 590kg)	2	163.5	141.5	152.5

Leading steer prices
Producer	Weight	Age and breed	P per kg	Gross £
R G Wood	590	18 mths Limousin	180.0	1062
R G Wood	570	20 mths Parthenaise	178.0	1015
R G Wood	565	20 mths Parthenaise	176.0	994
J A & P M Playfoot & Sons Ltd	570	30 mths Aberdeen Angus	170.0	969
H G Tompsett & Sons	615	26 mths Sussex	158.0	972
Leading heifer prices
W Alexander (Shoreham)	540	21 mths British Blue	190.0	1026
W S Furnival (Brookland)	535	19 mths Limousin	187.0	1000
W S Fuenival (Brookland	514	19 mths Limousin	187.0	961
A J Thompson & Sons	490	17 mths Limousin	186.0	911
W S Furnival (Brookland)	510	18 mths Limousin	186.0	949

Those prices are very poor indeed

 

[Wooly]

Those prices are very poor indeed

Yep.

But if you think they are poor, you need to look at the sheep prices in this area, especially cull ewes and store lambs !

 

[Netherfield]

Northallerton

74 Heifers to 256p £1467
25 Steers to 222p £1406
94 Bulls to 208p £1534

Thirsk

99 Heifers to 256p £1488 avg 215
41 Steers to 225p £1546 avg 193
98 Bulls to 209p £1646 avg 149

York

41 Cont Heifers to 244p £1395 avg 210
2 non cont H to 167p £875 avg 156
22 Cont Steers to 220p £1462 avg193
8 non cont Steers to 186p £1413 avg148
55 Cont Bulls to 203p £1562 avg 179
51 non Cont Bulls to 194p £1319 avg 146


https://www.selbymart.co.uk/wednesday-25th-september/

Averages:Cattle:
Strs M 220.5p av 202, H 225.5 av 194.
Hfrs M 265.5 av 221.3, H 259.5 av 208.8
Bulls M 207.5 avg 156, H 218.5 av 182.2
Cows 139.5 av 125.2 Otm 201.5 av 144.3.

 

[buttercup]

yes can see now why the store price is low.
Have allways been amazed the high price of store cattle against fnished and was thinking that the market is starting to rigth it self.

But clearly NOT.

 

[som farmer]

Northallerton

74 Heifers to 256p £1467
25 Steers to 222p £1406
94 Bulls to 208p £1534

Thirsk

99 Heifers to 256p £1488 avg 215
41 Steers to 225p £1546 avg 193
98 Bulls to 209p £1646 avg 149

York

41 Cont Heifers to 244p £1395 avg 210
2 non cont H to 167p £875 avg 156
22 Cont Steers to 220p £1462 avg193
8 non cont Steers to 186p £1413 avg148
55 Cont Bulls to 203p £1562 avg 179
51 non Cont Bulls to 194p £1319 avg 146


https://www.selbymart.co.uk/wednesday-25th-september/

Averages:Cattle:
Strs M 220.5p av 202, H 225.5 av 194.
Hfrs M 265.5 av 221.3, H 259.5 av 208.8
Bulls M 207.5 avg 156, H 218.5 av 182.2
Cows 139.5 av 125.2 Otm 201.5 av 144.3.

bit different to published market fat prices down in the south west

 

[Netherfield]

bit different to published market fat prices down in the south west

Someone used to say that Selby was the barometer for fat cattle prices in the whole country.


Useful info here

Market Prices

Latest red meat market prices and graphs.

www.qmscotland.co.uk

or here

The Livestock Auctioneers Association Limited (LAA)

The Livestock Auctioneers Association Limited (LAA) is the national representative organisation for livestock markets & auctioneers in England & Wales.

www.laa.co.uk

 

[Dman2]

We shall find out tomorrow