grainboy
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- Bedfordshire
How do you come to that conclusion?
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Stubble burning
- Thread starter holywell farmer
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How do you come to that conclusion?
Jo28
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- Location
- East Yorks
wasnt there a guy who did it last summer? seem to remember reading something about it. what happened to him??
yellow belly
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- Location
- south west lincolnshire
I would not go back
The main reason is that straw burning destroys all the stubble and the worms have no food
Worms move more soil than any plough and go deeper than any subsoiler
The first burn scratch and drill farmers were the first to get herbicide resistant black grass
The main reason is that straw burning destroys all the stubble and the worms have no food
Worms move more soil than any plough and go deeper than any subsoiler
The first burn scratch and drill farmers were the first to get herbicide resistant black grass
I disagree, in that I reckon judicious use of the match was very beneficial as it gave a clean start and did not affect any of the sub surface material. My main use was pre stubble turnips, and where we were going to be growing seed crops the following year. Great control on Wild Oats and the like.
Beet in the rotation helped the slowing up/prevention of BG hugely.
renewablejohn
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- Location
- lancs
Read the legislation its not banned but you can only do 10 hectares at a time so long as you follow the rules. A lot of rubbish written in this thread and yes I use propane burning for effective weed and slug management and no worms are not affected unless on the surface at the time of the burn which is very rare.
Ah, this is my kind of thread.
Proper farming, proper tractors, proper implements, proper blokes doing manly things with boxes of matches.
Halcyon days.
Proper farming, proper tractors, proper implements, proper blokes doing manly things with boxes of matches.Halcyon days.
- Location
- N.Lincs
Sadly, for dinosaurs like us, it's just a fading memoryAh, this is my kind of thread.
Halcyon days.
- we didn't even get time to take any pics. I guess we were too busy 'extinguishing' telegraph poles and damping down dyke braes 
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
Sadly, for dinosaurs like us, it's just a fading memory
I do hope you’re not suggesting it was ‘fun’ or exhilarating in any way.
We used to look forward to helping our elderly neighbours with their stubble burning when I was about 10 (no doubt someone will say children shouldn’t be allowed to play with fire next
). Always finished up back at the farmhouse for ice cream and lashings of ginger beer.When we got into arable a few years later, it was just as exhilarating, doing bigger fields and having pigtails and a slurry tanker of water on hand ready for mishaps.
Was it an EU rule that banned it? Will Bungling Boris allow us to start again?
- Location
- N.Lincs
NooI do hope you’re not suggesting it was ‘fun’ or exhilarating in any way.
noo noo.................I'd no idea that you were brought up in an Enid Blyton novelAlways finished up back at the farmhouse for ice cream and lashings of ginger beer.
I do hope you’re not suggesting it was ‘fun’ or exhilarating in any way.
We used to look forward to helping our elderly neighbours with their stubble burning when I was about 10 (no doubt someone will say children shouldn’t be allowed to play with fire next
When we got into arable a few years later, it was just as exhilarating, doing bigger fields and having pigtails and a slurry tanker of water on hand ready for mishaps.
Was it an EU rule that banned it? Will Bungling Boris allow us to start again?
As it's still permitted in France ( with a derogation ? ) I would imagine it was a UK thang. You'd be right to blame the EU though, doing manly things with boxes of matches, without suitable clipboard supervision is generally frowned upon.
This thread is now turning Brexity
- Location
- Scottish Highlands
As it's still permitted in France ( with a derogation ? ) I would imagine it was a UK thang. You'd be right to blame the EU though, doing manly things with boxes of matches, without suitable clipboard supervision is generally frowned upon.
This thread is now turning Brexity
To turn it back, the aversion to risk is most definitely not an EU thing. The main health and safety legislation in the UK is either indigenous and from a long time ago, and is generally sensible when applied correctly but has been misinterpreted by UK based idiots.
ThatsSomeSheep
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I recall burning straw in the swath in 1985. Must have been heartbreaking for the grown ups, but I was 7yo at the time and thought it great fun doing exactly the opposite of what “Charlie says”!
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There's been a few plantations go up when folks have been heather burning round home.
I was sent to rake up and burn some really dense straw in a small field near the trans Canada highway. I'd raked it up and lit it and it had died down. So me being a smart arse decided it was easier to run the corner of the harrows into the smouldering heap and lift them up leaving the straw to burn...
Only it never cleared... So I moved away and got out and started to kick the straw out of the tines (about 2x4x40 feet of straw) but when I kicked the straw out it got more air in and started burning properly so I kicked harder and it got wilder it was near the back of the tractor when I jumped in and floored it down the field and shake itself clear.
Straw burning is not fun
I was sent to rake up and burn some really dense straw in a small field near the trans Canada highway. I'd raked it up and lit it and it had died down. So me being a smart arse decided it was easier to run the corner of the harrows into the smouldering heap and lift them up leaving the straw to burn...
Only it never cleared... So I moved away and got out and started to kick the straw out of the tines (about 2x4x40 feet of straw) but when I kicked the straw out it got more air in and started burning properly
so I kicked harder and it got wilder it was near the back of the tractor when I jumped in and floored it down the field and shake itself clear.Straw burning is not fun
I remember burning acres and acres of straw for a chap in our village about 1988. I would have been about 15. No dragged headland, no water bowser just me (with no form of communication obviously) and a fork. Not even a box of matches. He just lit the swath with a lighter and left me to it until four o'clock when it all got left to its own devices. No one complained other than the fact if the washing was out it got smuts on it.
I never really thought about this until now when, even if straw burning was still allowed, I guess the manner in which we carried it out would be frowned upon.
Whilst I was in the straw, the farmer was at his other farm. He used to clear the dykes with more fire and a knapsack full of diesel.
I never really thought about this until now when, even if straw burning was still allowed, I guess the manner in which we carried it out would be frowned upon.
Whilst I was in the straw, the farmer was at his other farm. He used to clear the dykes with more fire and a knapsack full of diesel.
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
Do you mean you weren’t fully equipped with the latest in firefighting equipment, in the form of an old Hessian sack?
renewablejohn
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- Location
- lancs
As it's still permitted in France ( with a derogation ? ) I would imagine it was a UK thang. You'd be right to blame the EU though, doing manly things with boxes of matches, without suitable clipboard supervision is generally frowned upon.
This thread is now turning Brexity
Its still permitted here but you would not think so with all the rediculous comments on this thread. Unless the rules have changed since the last time we had a thread like this in 2016 then in England anyway you are still allowed to burn upto 10 hectares of stubble at a time so long as you comply with the rules in the 1993 act.
icanshootwell
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- Location
- Ross-on-wye
The best thing was when we had a couple of fields close by, we would set off down the road with the tyre still burning after we had dragged it around the 1st one. Happy days i recall, everyone loves a good burn up.
icanshootwell
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- Location
- Ross-on-wye
The best thing was when we had a couple of fields close by, we would set off down the road with the tyre still burning after we had dragged it around the 1st one. Happy days i recall, everyone loves a good burn up.
Surely this
Surely the burning you refer to is only under the heading of destroying specified plant diseases ?
Burning to dispose of unwanted straw is not permissible under the 1993 act.
I remember that there were a number of people very enthusiastic about straw burning, mostly the ones who drove the tractor towing the burning tyre, anyone who ended up extinguishing hedgerows was less taken by it.
The one thing above all else that dealt a death blow to the practice was the effect on air quality, the smoke hang around for ages, also the smuts drifted for miles, seemingly magnetically attracted to white surfaces. A local print works used to have terrible problems with smuts falling on the paper as they were printing.
Surely the burning you refer to is only under the heading of destroying specified plant diseases ?
Burning to dispose of unwanted straw is not permissible under the 1993 act.
I remember that there were a number of people very enthusiastic about straw burning, mostly the ones who drove the tractor towing the burning tyre, anyone who ended up extinguishing hedgerows was less taken by it.
The one thing above all else that dealt a death blow to the practice was the effect on air quality, the smoke hang around for ages, also the smuts drifted for miles, seemingly magnetically attracted to white surfaces. A local print works used to have terrible problems with smuts falling on the paper as they were printing.