Stupid woman

[beardface]

Geronimo's owner vows 'I'll take a bullet for him' as he's condemned to death

GERONIMO the alpaca’s owner has vowed to take a bullet to save him from callous jobsworths. The stud animal is due to be destroyed by Defra after twice testing positive for bovine TB. Tearful farme…

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[czechmate]

You wouldn’t want her next door

 

[Courier]

According to Defra statistics, in 1998 there were 5,000 cows slaughtered due to bTB in England. In 2019, 32,561 cattle were killed.

 

[JP1]

Alpacas

Still voluntary tagging?

Still no movement restrictions between TB hotspots?

It's just outrageous

 

[matthew]

Alpacas

Still voluntary tagging?

Still no movement restrictions between TB hotspots?

It's just outrageous

Certainly is.

As was Deathrow's massaging of alpaca deaths, which were restricted to a herd, not an individual animal. and as often as not, TB wiped out the lot. Vets had no right of entry either - until TB was confirmed.

More on the story here:

End of the road?

We wrote of a black alpaca called Geronimo in a posting in 2018. Imported from New Zealand, into a UK TB hotspot, the animal subsequen...

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[serf]

Alpacas

Still voluntary tagging?

Still no movement restrictions between TB hotspots?

It's just outrageous

Yep , all the quality breeding cattle that have been binned and just have to take it in on the chin and then there's all this fuss about this thing ........

 

[Pigken]

Report on radio earlier about petition large number of people signed to save 'the pet', would this be a good time for a union of farmers of the nation to stand up and tell it how it actually is.

 

[Lili]

Shambo (c. 2001 – 26 July 2007) was a black Friesian bull living in the interfaith Skanda Vale Temple near Llanpumsaint in Wales who had been adopted by the local Hindu community as a sacred animal. He came to public attention in April 2007, when a routine skin test for bovine tuberculosis (Mycobacterium bovis) tested positive, indicating he may have been in contact with the bacterium that causes the disease. As a result, the Welsh Government required that the bull be slaughtered. Skanda Vale disputed this and campaigned for a reprieve, expressing their belief that the sanctity of all life is the cornerstone of Hinduism. They were backed in this stance by the Hindu religious community at large. Farmers supported the Welsh Government's policy that cattle which tested positive to the skin test be destroyed in the interests of other local cattle.

On 15 July 2007, Deputy High Court judge Gary Hickinbottom ruled that slaughtering Shambo would be unlawful, since the two slaughter orders had failed to give enough weight to the rights of the monks. He ruled that killing Shambo would violate the human rights of the Skanda Vale community, which has a right to "manifest" its religious faith, according to Article 9 of the European Convention on Human Rights ("right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion"). A spokesman for the Farmers' Union of Wales called the ruling "ludicrous", arguing that it "contradicts the principles upon which successful TB eradication programmes throughout the world have been based for generations."[1] On 23 July 2007, the Court of Appeal upheld the Welsh Assembly Government's appeal. Lord Justice Pill said former rural affairs minister Jane Davidson acted lawfully when she refused to make an exception for Shambo as a sacred bull.[2] A postmortem subsequently revealed that Shambo had lesions 'typical of TB'

 

[Longlowdog]

This is the daily reality for cattle farmers the length of the country. If that damned woman gets one ounce of reprieve there should be rioting in the streets.

 

[milkloss]

Stupid woman maybe but I bet a lot of farmers would like to do the same thing for their favourite cow..... or any cow they own.

should be using it as a tool to show how farmers and their stock are affected by this disease. More strength together. Getting Packham onside would be a bonus too believe it or not....... enemies closer and all that.

 

[beardface]

Stupid woman maybe but I bet a lot of farmers would like to do the same thing for their favourite cow..... or any cow they own.

should be using it as a tool to show how farmers and their stock are affected by this disease. More strength together. Getting Packham onside would be a bonus too believe it or not....... enemies closer and all that.

A lot of farmers would yes. But we never seem to get the air time or press coverage.

 

[primmiemoo]

Desperately sad all round.

 

[Pigken]

Shambo (c. 2001 – 26 July 2007) was a black Friesian bull living in the interfaith Skanda Vale Temple near Llanpumsaint in Wales who had been adopted by the local Hindu community as a sacred animal. He came to public attention in April 2007, when a routine skin test for bovine tuberculosis (Mycobacterium bovis) tested positive, indicating he may have been in contact with the bacterium that causes the disease. As a result, the Welsh Government required that the bull be slaughtered. Skanda Vale disputed this and campaigned for a reprieve, expressing their belief that the sanctity of all life is the cornerstone of Hinduism. They were backed in this stance by the Hindu religious community at large. Farmers supported the Welsh Government's policy that cattle which tested positive to the skin test be destroyed in the interests of other local cattle.

On 15 July 2007, Deputy High Court judge Gary Hickinbottom ruled that slaughtering Shambo would be unlawful, since the two slaughter orders had failed to give enough weight to the rights of the monks. He ruled that killing Shambo would violate the human rights of the Skanda Vale community, which has a right to "manifest" its religious faith, according to Article 9 of the European Convention on Human Rights ("right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion"). A spokesman for the Farmers' Union of Wales called the ruling "ludicrous", arguing that it "contradicts the principles upon which successful TB eradication programmes throughout the world have been based for generations."[1] On 23 July 2007, the Court of Appeal upheld the Welsh Assembly Government's appeal. Lord Justice Pill said former rural affairs minister Jane Davidson acted lawfully when she refused to make an exception for Shambo as a sacred bull.[2] A postmortem subsequently revealed that Shambo had lesions 'typical of TB'

When did the human rights of others get considered.

 

[milkloss]

A lot of farmers would yes. But we never seem to get the air time or press coverage.

exactly. Plenty of press coverage here with the 'stupid woman'

 

[JSmith]

If she wants to take a bullet for the alpaca I’d let her, one less cxnt in the world!!!

 

[Jackov Altraids]

Why exactly is she stupid?

She has brought the TB issue to the masses which is a good thing. As said before, an excellent opportunity for the NFU to highlight our problems which will no doubt be squandered.

It does highlight what pressure you can put on the government when you are not being threatened with RPA related penalties.

 

[Longlowdog]

@JSmith I believe you meant to type 'selfish cxnt'.
@Jackov Altraids she is stupid because she bought into her animal without doing due diligence and then expects exemptions from the laws which apply to all other livestock owners. She is stupid, selfish and downright ignorant and ignorance is no excuse in the eyes of the law. Failing a T.B test or being diagnosed with T.B should have been a daily concern for her as it is for all cattle owners.

 

[Jackov Altraids]

@JSmith I believe you meant to type 'selfish cxnt'.
@Jackov Altraids she is stupid because she bought into her animal without doing due diligence and then expects exemptions from the laws which apply to all other livestock owners. She is stupid, selfish and downright ignorant and ignorance is no excuse in the eyes of the law. Failing a T.B test or being diagnosed with T.B should have been a daily concern for her as it is for all cattle owners.

How do you know she didn't perform due diligence?

I would consider her to be very selfish for many reasons but not stupid.

It is interesting that she thinks the four skin tests prove it was negative but that the 2 skin test's that were positive are not credible......

 

[Mark Hatton]

Just read an article on this https://news.sky.com/story/geronimo...fter-no-10-refuses-stay-of-execution-12374541 States that Defra have allegedly refused to test 5 other Alpaca's on the holding, seems a strange decision that?

 

[Netherfield]

Stupid woman maybe but I bet a lot of farmers would like to do the same thing for their favourite cow..... or any cow they own.

should be using it as a tool to show how farmers and their stock are affected by this disease. More strength together. Getting Packham onside would be a bonus too believe it or not....... enemies closer and all that.

The paper this morning said that Packham is on the womans side along with Joanna Lumley.