Tandem axle slurry tankers

[daijd]

Afternoon all

I’ve searched on here but couldn’t find a thread.
Considering upgrading our tanker to increase output. Choices are Hi spec/abbey/Redrock 3000 gal single or tandem axle. Maybe a tandem axle 3500 as it’s not much more in price. What I’m not sure of is the manoeuvrability of a tandem compared to single axle tankers especially swinging into gateways. Wondering if anyone could shed some info or experience?

thanks

 

[daijd]

Forgot to mention the tandems were specced with passive steering.

 

[Sharny dubs]

Another slurry tanker thread (sorry)

At some point I'm going to have to go on to a tandem axle tanker. Question is which is best. Can't afford joskin/Samson so please don't suggest them. It would be between at the moment Abbey Connor Redrock Major NC Spec would be steering axle on 710 tyres. Any experience greatfully received

thefarmingforum.co.uk

I was Mcd in a past life but started a new name due to password problems
Bought a 3500 abbey in the end. On the road it is excellent. It's a thought doing long draws with the single axle now. We specced a littler longer barrel for stability and its brilliant. With the steering axle its easy as manoeuvre able as our 3100 single axle. Its is slightly harder to pull in the field. Notice on hills the tractor is gripping a bit more so how we will get on in soft conditions remains to be seen.

 

[Speedstar]

We run some 3000 gallon Hi-spec tankers on tandem axles with steering axles , they travel well and are very good on the road,I would never have a single axle tanker again

 

[puntabrava]

We run some 3000 gallon Hi-spec tankers on tandem axles with steering axles , they travel well and are very good on the road,I would never have a single axle tanker again

Never mind that, revisit the knife sharpener thread.

 

[Boysground]

Have a tandem axle Pichon with passive steer. So much smoother on the road and good in the field. Won’t be going back to single axle either.

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[Mouser]

Afternoon all

I’ve searched on here but couldn’t find a thread.
Considering upgrading our tanker to increase output. Choices are Hi spec/abbey/Redrock 3000 gal single or tandem axle. Maybe a tandem axle 3500 as it’s not much more in price. What I’m not sure of is the manoeuvrability of a tandem compared to single axle tankers especially swinging into gateways. Wondering if anyone could shed some info or experience?

thanks

3500 tandems at work go in places single axle 2500 wont go.

 

[daijd]

We run some 3000 gallon Hi-spec tankers on tandem axles with steering axles , they travel well and are very good on the road,I would never have a single axle tanker again

What did you have before them?

 

[daijd]

3500 tandems at work go in places single axle 2500 wont go.

You talking gateways?

 

[Speedstar]

What did you have before them?

2000 gallon single and and the same tandem but with no steering axles

 

[Mouser]

You talking gateways?

Yeah sorry, manoeuvring is much better with the passive steering. Wouldn't carry as well obviously

 

[daijd]

2000 gallon single and and the same tandem but with no steering axles

You find the new tankers swing into gateways better than the 2000gal single?

 

[Speedstar]

You find the new tankers swing into gateways better than the 2000gal single?

Yes the will go in s tighter gate way than a 2000 gallon single axle tanker, both have trailing shoe on them as well

 

[Down farmer]

What is passive steering and do u find tandem travels as well in field conditions as large singles ,I know there are a lot of variables as in tyre width/height

 

[Mouser]

What is passive steering and do u find tandem travels as well in field conditions as large singles ,I know there are a lot of variables as in tyre width/height

Rear axle steers according to forces applied by the ground when turning. Alternative is forced steering which uses hydraulics to turn the rear axle so it works better and in reverse.

 

[daijd]

Yeah sorry, manoeuvring is much better with the passive steering. Wouldn't carry as well obviously

Which 3500 tanker is that then?

 

[agri knives]

Rear axle steers according to forces applied by the ground when turning. Alternative is forced steering which uses hydraulics to turn the rear axle so it works better and in reverse.

The big differance is that forced steering works in reverse , this saves tyres , tyres on forced steering machines will last at least five times longer than tyres with passive steering . I have 4 machines with forced steering and I’d never even consider buying a machine on passive steering , also get the ball and spoon hitch.

 

[kiwi pom]

What's a 3500 gallon weigh full? 20 ton+?

 

[daijd]

The big differance is that forced steering works in reverse , this saves tyres , tyres on forced steering machines will last at least five times longer than tyres with passive steering . I have 4 machines with forced steering and I’d never even consider buying a machine on passive steering , also get the ball and spoon hitch.

I’ve not seen a forced steering arrangement in the flesh but wouldn’t the arm that attaches onto the tractor which controls the steering get in the way if you needed to turn real sharp?

 

[Frankzy]

I’ve not seen a forced steering arrangement in the flesh but wouldn’t the arm that attaches onto the tractor which controls the steering get in the way if you needed to turn real sharp?

No you'll be rubbing against the drawbar before that.