Tb are we(the English) winning the war?

[lazy farmer]

Latest accredited official statistics on tuberculosis (TB) in cattle in Great Britain - quarterly

Quarterly statistics on tuberculosis (TB) in cattle in Great Britain.

www.gov.uk

Not sure when these figures became available. But given the good news for English farmers I’m surprised
how little news this has made. Some of the falls are quite dramatic. Especially when compared to Wales and to a much lesser extent “TB free” Scotland.
Is this proof that the culls have worked? I would suggest yes but the data doesn’t cover this question.

 

[kfpben]

The data is certainly going in the right direction, especially in the High risk area.

 

[sidjon]

Would think so , we've gone from losing a average of 90 animals a year and being shut down for 30 years pre cull, to going clear and just losing a hand full post cull, not changed any management to get clear either.

 

[Jerry]

Would think so , we've gone from losing a average of 90 animals a year and being shut down for 30 years pre cull, to going clear and just losing a hand full post cull, not changed any management to get clear either.

And yet the "anti" cull brigade say culls dont work....

 

[Ted M]

When we had our annual test in December the vet told us they were getting far more clear test results and attributed it to the cull

 

[Scholsey]

And yet the "anti" cull brigade say culls dont work....

And a large number of livestock farmers are completely unsupportive of it and say the NFU are useless etc when they have pretty much designed/run/implemented and subsidised the whole thing!

 

[pappuller]

We had our 6monthly test 3weeks ago in the edge area, clear for 3yrs and we we went down with 7 reactors which were all clean on pm so even though we are now on our 5th year of the cull there is still issues arising.

 

[Werzle]

Culling badgers is a vital tool in helping lowering tb infection but there is still plenty of farms that have had the cull and gamma testing still rumbling on with fresh tb outbreaks every 3-5 years. The welsh are crying out for culling badgers but it isnt going to be the miracle cure they hope its going to be. Deer dont spread it anywhere near as bad but there numbers have exploded which is a concern going forward.

 

[sidjon]

And a large number of livestock farmers are completely unsupportive of it and say the NFU are useless etc when they have pretty much designed/run/implemented and subsidised the whole thing!

Nfu we're any use to stopping MAFF from stopping doing the 1km culling, which would have controlled the spread in 97, cause there was so few of us wtih btb they didn't want to listen

 

[Scholsey]

Nfu we're any use to stopping MAFF from stopping doing the 1km culling, which would have controlled the spread in 97, cause there was so few of us wtih btb they didn't want to listen

Not sure about then, I was 11, but it certainly wouldn’t be happening now if it wasn’t for them

 

[Bury the Trash]

And a large number of livestock farmers are completely unsupportive of it and say the NFU are useless etc when they have pretty much designed/run/implemented and subsidised the whole thing!

bull sh!t get your facts right before telling untruth crap.
there just as many non nfu members as members contributing both physically and financially to the culls.
If you cant write correctly, truthfully and factually then better if you don't write anything .

 

[sidjon]

Not sure about then, I was 11, but it certainly wouldn’t be happening now if it wasn’t for them

Probably wouldn't have needed too if they had kept the 1km cull in place

 

[Scholsey]

bull sh!t get your facts right before telling untruth crap.
there just as many non nfu members as members contributing both physically and financially to the culls.
If you cant write correctly, truthfully and factually then better if you don't write anything .

And the input from NFU hasn’t helped at all? I haven’t said they have done everything but they have been integral to it.

 

[Bury the Trash]

And the input from NFU hasn’t helped at all? I haven’t said they have done everything but they have been integral to it.

Stop twisting my words.

 

[Scholsey]

Stop twisting my words.

And what was untrue from what I said?

 

[pappuller]

bull sh!t get your facts right before telling untruth crap.
there just as many non nfu members as members contributing both physically and financially to the culls.
If you cant write correctly, truthfully and factually then better if you don't write anything .

There's a lot of dairy men in our area who have never signed up some big,some small

 

[Holsteinfriesian90]

There's a lot of dairy men in our area who have never signed up some big,some small

I think if it’s done right it’s good if it’s not all your doing is moving badgers to your neighbours.

 

[Ffermer Bach]

Our vet told us he believed gassing sets was a far better solution.

I think if it could be allied to a tb test for the badger latrines, then taking out all positive sets via gassing would be best. I don't know if that is possible. I remember reading somewhere that there was a study to find if a latrine was tb positive, but the researcher said she didn't want it to be used to condemn badgers (I can't remember where I read that).

 

[Av Gorritt]

I've posted this before , probably on the dark side ! Quite a few years ago now , my B-in-L ran a coach service , and one of his runs was Manchester area to High Carley Sanatorium near Ulverston , picking up visitors to the "sanny" - Mancheater - Bolton - Chorley- Preston- Lancaster - etc . Originally he ran 2x 36 seaters, and then it dropped to 1x36 and 1x29 - then just one 36 , then just the 29 seater , and at the end he ran a taxi to honour his licences . Eventually even that stopped and then High Carley ceased to be a TB sanatorium , becoming a general chest hospital . and TB was officially declared beaten . I then have a relly who was a sister in a large hospital locally . She said a large number of immigrants who were numerous in the area , and who were supposed to be given a clean bill of health before they set off here , were presenting a few weeks after arrival saying they had a "bit of a cough " and she swears that was the beginning of the current TB outbreaks in this country . Previously it was cattle passing it on to humans , now it's the opposite .

 

[Bruce Almighty]

Our vet told us he believed gassing sets was a far better solution.

I think if it could be allied to a tb test for the badger latrines, then taking out all positive sets via gassing would be best. I don't know if that is possible. I remember reading somewhere that there was a study to find if a latrine was tb positive, but the researcher said she didn't want it to be used to condemn badgers (I can't remember where I read that).

It worked in the past and I’m sure would work again. Carbon monoxide or dioxide could be used.

@matthew

Liz Wellington and her PCR test ?