Telescopic tanker axle?

[7485]

A sliding axle tanker
http://www.staja.nl/en/producten/kaweco/mest-transport/

 

[Mursal]

As previously mentioned, will hinging the drawbar allow both axles to follow properly?
When the U bolts loosen on a road trailer they run out of line, have you the room to move the axles back (or forward) on one side? Then, No need to touch the draw bar.

 

[Blue.]

As previously mentioned, will hinging the drawbar allow both axles to follow properly?
When the U bolts loosen on a road trailer they run out of line, have you the room to move the axles back (or forward) on one side? Then, No need to touch the draw bar.

I think it will follow fine.

I've no room to have any steering at all,so it's going to be the drawbar.

 

[Philip Watkins]

As previously mentioned, will hinging the drawbar allow both axles to follow properly?
When the U bolts loosen on a road trailer they run out of line, have you the room to move the axles back (or forward) on one side? Then, No need to touch the draw bar.

If you hinge the drawbar, the tanker (trailer) will pull straight but to one side just like a conventional baler does when you swing the drawbar across. There will be no need to mess about trying to angle the axles.
A hinged drawbar will (probably) be easier to engineer than adjustable sliding axles.

 

[davedb]

If you hinge the drawbar, the tanker (trailer) will pull straight but to one side just like a conventional baler does when you swing the drawbar across. There will be no need to mess about trying to angle the axles.
A hinged drawbar will (probably) be easier to engineer than adjustable sliding axles.

The only trouble you could have is if on a bank and you have the tractor uphill from the tanker it could make the tank want to tip over

 

[Mursal]

OK, thanks for that ..............

Edit:
Just, how do you get strength into a pivot on a sprung drawbar with a pump mounted on the top?

 

[Philip Watkins]

The only trouble you could have is if on a bank and you have the tractor uphill from the tanker it could make the tank want to tip over

Old fashioned swinging drawbar on the tractor instead of the tanker then?

 

[Blue.]

OK, thanks for that ..............

Edit:
Just, how do you get strength into a pivot on a sprung drawbar with a pump mounted on the top?

I'll let you know when I do it.

Thinking now my pump should have been mounted to the tank,that way I could lift the tank and pump off the chassis in one,enabling the chassis to be used under a tipper body,also the drawbar would be easier to mod.

 

[Mursal]

That would allow you more scope ............
Can the front jaw the drawbar runs through be moved on the chassis cross member, I wonder

 

[Blue.]

That would allow you more scope ............
Can the front jaw the drawbar runs through be moved on the chassis cross member, I wonder

It could if the pump wasn't tight against the chassishence if the pump went with the tank

 

[Haythers]

This could be a stupid question but I'm just wondering if the the tanker is offset say to the right hand side of the tractor, then would a lot more weight be put on the back right wheel and dig in a lot, or would you have to wight the other side tractor wheel

 

[mo!]

This could be a stupid question but I'm just wondering if the the tanker is offset say to the right hand side of the tractor, then would a lot more weight be put on the back right wheel and dig in a lot, or would you have to wight the other side tractor wheel

Nope. The weight is straight down on the puh or drawbar, which is in the centre of the tractor. It can't put any weight on one side more than the other.

 

[Boohoo]

I know it's not answering the original question, but would it be simpler to just have a field tanker and boom into it or even throw a pipe through the hedge to transfer between tankers?
3 axles with no steering will make a mess turning on grass unless the turns are very gentle and I'd say a pivoting drawbar will try to pull the tractor sideways.

 

[Blue.]

I know it's not answering the original question, but would it be simpler to just have a field tanker and boom into it or even throw a pipe through the hedge to transfer between tankers?
3 axles with no steering will make a mess turning on grass unless the turns are very gentle and I'd say a pivoting drawbar will try to pull the tractor sideways.

I built this tanker as a road tanker and we use it coupled up to the umbilical and dribblebar,it's only once you start moving 16cube at once you don't like going back to 10cube,so I then fitted some decent tyres and use it when dry (not a chance in winter here) I'm just trying to make it better when I can use it.

 

[davedb]

I know it's not answering the original question, but would it be simpler to just have a field tanker and boom into it or even throw a pipe through the hedge to transfer between tankers?
3 axles with no steering will make a mess turning on grass unless the turns are very gentle and I'd say a pivoting drawbar will try to pull the tractor sideways.

This tanker is quite well set up to umbilical from with a radio control in @eulb fendt so you can do it with one man but I supose its a lot of hassle having 2 tractors when it's dry eboght to just drive in the field
Edit: beat me too it

 

[Mursal]

Coil springs alongside on the drawbar or a leaf spring at the back?
If coils, pivot the back of the drawbar and slide the front, left or right, (complete with springs)?

 

[Blue.]

Coil springs alongside on the drawbar or a leaf spring at the back?
If coils, pivot the back of the drawbar and slide the front, left or right, (complete with springs)?

Rubber buffers from hgv.

 

[Mursal]

Feck ............

 

[davedb]

Probably easier to pivot the drawbar in front of the rubber buffers and leave the suspension as it is

 

[Blue.]

Probably easier to pivot the drawbar in front of the rubber buffers and leave the suspension as it is

That will be the plan